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    Can someone explain to me why we’re aiming for BiS with accuracy 482, and without deviled eggs?
    http://pastie.org/private/qpfxgvdvj1hmlkxiwt5tq

    My current profile with mixed wyrm/allagan/onion/DL gear shows a higher number:
    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/LJ7Z Gear Calculator shows 485 (+144)
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/3333410/ Lodestone shows 485

    A clarification for this newb would be nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiten_Ex View Post
    Can someone explain to me why we’re aiming for BiS with accuracy 482, and without deviled eggs?
    http://pastie.org/private/qpfxgvdvj1hmlkxiwt5tq

    My current profile with mixed wyrm/allagan/onion/DL gear shows a higher number:
    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/LJ7Z Gear Calculator shows 485 (+144)
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/3333410/ Lodestone shows 485

    A clarification for this newb would be nice!
    Are you shooting for most accuracy possible? The point is that we're shooting for the least amount of accuracy required for the task at hand, that way we're using more Weapon Damage/STR/DTR/CRT (in that order) instead of more unneeded accuracy, so we do more damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JetBrooks View Post
    Are you shooting for most accuracy possible? The point is that we're shooting for the least amount of accuracy required for the task at hand, that way we're using more Weapon Damage/STR/DTR/CRT (in that order) instead of more unneeded accuracy, so we do more damage.
    Oh am I misunderstanding that bis chart? This is from the first page of the Dragoon Rotation Reborn guide.
    http://pastie.org/private/qpfxgvdvj1hmlkxiwt5tq

    Am I aiming for zero accuracy (bottom most on the list)?

    Thanks for the quick response btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiten_Ex View Post
    Oh am I misunderstanding that bis chart? This is from the first page of the Dragoon Rotation Reborn guide.
    http://pastie.org/private/qpfxgvdvj1hmlkxiwt5tq

    Am I aiming for zero accuracy (bottom most on the list)?

    Thanks for the quick response btw.
    You want the least accuracy required for a 100% hit-rate on the task at hand. We think T5 requires somewhere from the mid 460s to the mid 470s (testing is still ongoing). T4 requires a bit less than that. So you want to ONLY do mid 470s for T5, and then use whatever gear is available for damage. Weapon Damage first, then STR, then DTR, then CRT.

    Outside of coil, I'm not sure what accuracy is required, basically just play with it. Use as little as possible, and when you miss, increase it a little bit. I know I simply don't have enough alternate gear to be able to change out that much. If you get an ilvl90 gear set in the mid 470s, call it a day and start putting your efforts into other jobs. Unless you really wanna min-max.

    Edit: We will probably need more accuracy for future content, though. So keep that in mind.
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    Ohhhh oh my god thanks. I dont know why this is not intuitive to me.

    I got confused with the fact that my somewhat lowbie gear is giving so much more accuracy than that list. Thanks for the clarification!
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    https://mega.co.nz/#!dBxwCTLA!UQOYxX...199JCIWEUQpjHo
    If people are interested in alternative solvers, here's my combined MNK/BRD/DRG spreadsheet
    Probably not the prettiest but I tried to make it very easily customizable to make a gearset with common parameters
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    Managed to move things around and bump my acc up with food by 1 from my last attempt. So here's 469 on a 55 min parse. Again I'll continue to try and slowly bump it up and continue testing misses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkmouse View Post
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    It seems odd that you only ever miss autoattacks. That's two parses where your only misses were on autoattacks. Could there be something going on there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayvar View Post
    It seems odd that you only ever miss autoattacks. That's two parses where your only misses were on autoattacks. Could there be something going on there?
    My guess is the transition to dive bombs, never really payed attention to what was popping up at that point when she flying away but hit box still there a second. but like I say its a guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frion View Post
    My guess is the transition to dive bombs, never really payed attention to what was popping up at that point when she flying away but hit box still there a second. but like I say its a guess.

    After breaking the log down a little more both misses were on "Asclepius". What I'll do next time is create a custom trigger for a missed auto attack to identify the point in which it is occurring to see if there is a consistent point such as a transition that it misses. However by the looks of it, it's possible that the hit cap of "Asclepius" is just higher.
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