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    Quote Originally Posted by BubblyBoar View Post
    So what happens when the gil that new players get from NPCs dries up?
    I had this concern as well. Before the game went into release, I had a feeling that leveling up a DoM / DoW first to 50 might be a bad idea for me, because of all the Gil sinks and the little Gil to be made from being a 50 DoM / DoW.

    To take advantage of all the people rushing to level 50 and not concerning themselves with Gathering / Crafting, I decided to rush Mining and Goldsmith to 50 in order to make a profit off of all their gold they got from quests leveling to 50.
    If nothing is done, I really foresee a problem --> When people are mostly at 50, and their are not so many side quests and such to be done (where the majority of the Gil seems to come from), what happens then? People tell me they basically lose more money than they gain in repair costs! Does this mean that someone who just wishes to play a DoM / DoW is going to be forced to pick up gathering and/or crafting?
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    The game is unbalanced. Since the start of 2.0 I've got nearly zero income.

    - normal items are cheap. aren't worth selling them.
    - rare items are bounded to characters.
    - I don't craft.
    - I don't gather.

    make the game that everyone can play, please. if someone don't want to craft/gather, let them be. give them a choice to find money without doing something they don't like.
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    Anakhu Dalmasca
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    I don't see any problems, I have for crafting the highest lvl of only 22 and a botanist at 18. I have 1 job at 50.

    I have made 190k since EA

    it's there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anakhu View Post
    I don't see any problems, I have for crafting the highest lvl of only 22 and a botanist at 18. I have 1 job at 50.

    I have made 190k since EA

    it's there
    I have personally made over 250k since EA. The issue is that most all that gil comes from quests you can only do once or one time bonuses. The question is where does the gil come from at level 50? If the only real source of new gil in the game is from turning in HQ lvl 50ish craft leves then I believe that is an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riyo View Post
    I have personally made over 250k since EA. The issue is that most all that gil comes from quests you can only do once or one time bonuses. The question is where does the gil come from at level 50? If the only real source of new gil in the game is from turning in HQ lvl 50ish craft leves then I believe that is an issue.
    No, sorry you misunderstood me as I didn't specify.. I have made 190k since EA from selling stuff to npc/markets. My 2nd night after going to bed and waking up I had 120k, however I am on a legacy server so that could have a lot to do with it. There will be new gil coming in the game from other players completing their quests , running dungeons/fates and also npc generate gil , it might not be much but they do. You won't be able to have 10's of millions so easy as we did in 1.0. You have to be wiser about how you spend your money , don't teleport willy nilly all over when you could ride a boat, or a mount. Don't repair high lvl sets at npc, use your crafter or another crafter who will do it for less. and FARM FARM FARM
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    Last edited by Anakhu; 09-03-2013 at 10:47 PM.

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    Hikozaemon Kenkonken
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    there is a very limited source of income from quests and once that runs out your options for making gil become very slim. Materials dropped by monsters for crafting now have little to no value. they also cant be sold to npc anymore because almost all enemy drops now sell for 1 gold to combat RMT. This is a bogus action as it hurts the playerbase more than the RMT. They can bot for chump change all day real players cant. Leves at lvl 40+ only give 350-500 gil each and u can junk your gear real fast spamming leves. Repair cost are too high and shoulda been axed from the game before 2.0 came along but Yoshi-P didnt want to. Repair cost are an Archiac and off-putting mechanic in a MMO. Do you really think Ifrits Blade would get dull fighting some low level mobs and need repairing???? NO! I have 44 cul from 1.0 but no one buys food in this version because for the most part IT SUCKS. High leves/Company leves should be giving more gold and more treasure chests
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    Stop buying materials and farm them yourself if you can't figure out ways to make gil.
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    If you don't want to craft... drops/loot can be a decent source of income too. I found a rock i didn't need in AV and sold it for 40k. Some of those minions (which from what I have seen have a pretty high chance of looting from the coffers) can go for a pretty penny. Stop NPCing away all of those mats. Some of the higher level crafters would rather buy them for slightly more for the convenience rather than going out to gather it themselves.
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    When all else fails, Heck the Bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKupo View Post
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    You are missing the point. What happens when all these people buying this stuff off the AH run out of gil? They either have to make it from in-game mechanics, at this point is leves apparently, or sale their own stuff on the AH to people. In the end if there is not a good source of new gil in the game the only people that will end up with gil are those that only sell on AH and don't buy anything.

    Not to mention with all the gil sinks and the coming gil sinks (housing) I believe it is possible the amount of gil in the game can go down faster than the game creates it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riyo View Post
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    Although there is circulation, which will naturally slow this process down, there will always be ways to make gil. Join FATES, kill some MOBs, do repeatables, etc. The thing that tends to become the issue is the proportion of gil being made to the market costs of materials. It doesn't matter how much gil is being made if you have people selling things for unreasonable prices.
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    When all else fails, Heck the Bed.

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