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    Quote Originally Posted by LetoAtreidesII View Post
    People who are all "why bother when people will just go around it" are really pissing me off. Ya, never try, great message for people. If you never try, nothing will change. AT LEAST TRY!!! It's better to implement something and as more reports of how people are circumventing it come account for each and every way they get around it. And then punish those who do those methods. It's better to do something about it and actually have something than do nothing and see no change. No wonder the US is getting into such a crappy state in politics, we see this mindset continue to increase.

    Basically, signed and spreading the word.
    its not better to try.. the resources would be wasted at this time to put in an afk timer.. when those resources can be spent upgrading the new hardware and testing the software that is going in to effect this week to fix the issue all together instead of putting another bandaid on it. Maybe some time after the hardware upgrades then use the resources to build an afk timer. but not now its not needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailstrum View Post
    its not better to try.. the resources would be wasted at this time to put in an afk timer.. when those resources can be spent upgrading the new hardware and testing the software that is going in to effect this week to fix the issue all together instead of putting another bandaid on it. Maybe some time after the hardware upgrades then use the resources to build an afk timer. but not now its not needed.
    Apparently you have no idea how easy it is to implement. And yes I have done such similar things. My job requires I implement those things into the service my job provides or their servers would also get overwhelmed -_-

    And you're still pathetic for the "don't try" mindset. Seriously, if you don't ever wanna try, just be quiet. You do no good for anyone with that mindset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetoAtreidesII View Post
    Apparently you have no idea how easy it is to implement. And yes I have done such similar things. My job requires I implement those things into the service my job provides or their servers would also get overwhelmed -_-

    And you're still pathetic for the "don't try" mindset. Seriously, if you don't ever wanna try, just be quiet. You do no good for anyone with that mindset.
    there is a difference in trying something that might help and doing something that is gonna waste resources. Putting people on making, testing and implementing an afk timer is a waste of resources atm, when they can be part of internal testing of the new servers for stability. especially when they have a game plan in place to resolve the issues we are seeing in 2 days. Why waste the man power.

    not to mention wasting resources on monitoring the system for people circumventing it. IE 3rd and non 3rd party programs. I can use my macro keys on my keyboard they would have no way of telling if im sitting there every 5min alt tabbing back in game hitting space bar or tapping W. also you would have people auto running in the Inn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailstrum View Post
    there is a difference in trying something that might help and doing something that is gonna waste resources. Putting people on making, testing and implementing an afk timer is a waste of resources atm, when they can be part of internal testing of the new servers for stability. especially when they have a game plan in place to resolve the issues we are seeing in 2 days. Why waste the man power.

    not to mention wasting resources on monitoring the system for people circumventing it. IE 3rd and non 3rd party programs. I can use my macro keys on my keyboard they would have no way of telling if im sitting there every 5min alt tabbing back in game hitting space bar or tapping W. also you would have people auto running in the Inn.
    Are you saying it hasn't helped at all with the other MMOs on the market? Implementing a system to just auto-kick idle people will help free up slots for people who want to play, reduce some load on their servers, and will make people happier. There's no excuse to not have it.

    Why do you think it'll be a waste of resources?

    Or are you one of those people who want to stay logged in permanently when you can finally get on and don't wanna deal with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetoAtreidesII View Post
    Are you saying it hasn't helped at all with the other MMOs on the market? Implementing a system to just auto-kick idle people will help free up slots for people who want to play, reduce some load on their servers, and will make people happier. There's no excuse to not have it.

    Why do you think it'll be a waste of resources?

    Or are you one of those people who want to stay logged in permanently when you can finally get on and don't wanna deal with it?
    i am saying at this time its to late to start it, and that it would be a waste of resources to work on it now. When the real fix is just around the corner. After the 4th and everything upgraded and maintenance is done then they can start work on an afk system that will help future issues. Currently it wouldnt help alot because people would circumvent it becaues they want to stay logged in because they wont get back in, once these fixes go in, people will be less likely to try and circumvent it because they will be able to log in with ease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailstrum View Post
    i am saying at this time its to late to start it, and that it would be a waste of resources to work on it now. When the real fix is just around the corner. After the 4th and everything upgraded and maintenance is done then they can start work on an afk system that will help future issues. Currently it wouldnt help alot because people would circumvent it becaues they want to stay logged in because they wont get back in, once these fixes go in, people will be less likely to try and circumvent it because they will be able to log in with ease.
    doesn't solve current world 1017's unless people are willing to move. Those with friends/family will be less likely to do so unless they all move, which in turn creates the same problem on the new world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mailstrum View Post
    IE 3rd and non 3rd party programs. I can use my macro keys on my keyboard they would have no way of telling if im sitting there every 5min alt tabbing back in game hitting space bar or tapping W. also you would have people auto running in the Inn.
    All of which are super easy to detect, and mmo's have been doing so for years. You've been shot down on this argument before, yet still persist in using it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wren_Fuoren View Post
    doesn't solve current world 1017's unless people are willing to move. Those with friends/family will be less likely to do so unless they all move, which in turn creates the same problem on the new world.



    All of which are super easy to detect, and mmo's have been doing so for years. You've been shot down on this argument before, yet still persist in using it.
    it will help the 1017s first off because they are upgrading the data center that holds the queue system. It will be able to hold a larger queue per server, and they will be lifting the login restrictions on the servers and actually let them go to cap before starting a queue.

    Im sorry but you cannot detect a macro keyboard pressing 1 or a human pressing 1 there is no way to tell the difference unless a gm physically moves or contacts the player. IE is a waste of man power at this moment. Again im all for an afk auto boot system. But i am not for wasting resources on it at this time when they need to focus on fixing the problem not putting a bandaid on it. Once the systems have been upgraded then work on an afk system to lower queue times.
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    You really think that this upcoming fix will fix it? have you not experienced such similar fixes before? And this is an even bigger waste of resources than if they added an anti-afk system. Programming is relatively cheap compared to getting full new hardware and installing it. And doing both would be more ideal. They are a multi-billion dollar company. They could definitely eat the cost now and get better PR and reap the benefits later.
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