Please add lottery spawn NMs in the future ^^

[Nero]

Hard to find the words which wont hurt anyone.....

First of all this is a Final Fantasy Game where is expect challenge, difficult quests, a nice Storyline and many more. Some of you are always bring on arguments about beeing casual or beeing Hardcore and i really dont get it how self-centered people are by expecting Stuff just for their own Reasons.

I of course have also my own thoughts about this Game but i think about it in a general way.

Lets just say like it is in this thread... Lottery NM' Pops?

I Totally would like that too and they should be like they were in FFXI. With Placeholders, Spawmtimes up to a few hours and so on. So why do i say that? Because a challenge is always nice, even if it takes a while you will be more like "Wow i finally got this Item after hours". If you can get it like every 5 Minutes cause of the Instant Repoptime or the high droprate und will be like "I got this... and everyone else got this... this is boring".. maybe it is not like that for you now, but it will be in the future if you can get everything that easy. There is no challenge, no competition at all, no frustrating and also no happiness.

I played FFXI for a long Time and i got really pissed after SE decided to make CoP more easy. It was a hell of a way to go through CoP in the beginning, but it was a lot of fun and people could be proud like "Hey i got Sea-Access". After SE nerfed it, it wasnt special anymore.. Everyone got to Sea very quick and it was not a prove for your effort anymore if you decided to apply to an Endgame LS. "Hey i got Sea" -> "So does everyone else"...

I totally understand People to say "I got a Family, i got a Job, i have a busy Reallife" and so on. But expecting just because of that a Game have to be easy as hell is a real selfish and greedy way. I also got Family and Kids, and? I still want BIG Endgame, i want challenges, i want HARD ways to get Items... it does not effect your reallife if you know how to organise Stuff. For example i just play when my Kids are sleeping. Its all about organizing.. if you really want to play a Game or if you have a Hobby you have to find a way to do it. I know people spending 12 Hours a day for their Hobby which would be way to much for me but i respect how they organize their daily Stuff and get everything done they want to. ( Not speaking of MMO's). MMO's is also a Hobby and the nice thing is.. you can be at home and dont have to go out like you have to if you like to Fish, if you are a jogger if you like to go to Camp, go out with Friends and so on. You can be like "Now i play 20 Minutes", they you can go out with your Family.. while your Wife/Husband is cooking you could say "Now i play another 30 Minutes"... Maybe its cold outside, raining or w/e.. Hey today i can play a few hours.. and so on.. it is really all about organizing... Sitting there and saying "I got a busy reallife and cant play much" is that for selfish and if you are really busy 23 hours a day... deal with it that out there are people with more Time, which want to spend their freetime to play a game, having fun with social contacts, want to sit for hours at a NM and all that just to have fun. Making everything easy just means People will get BORED very quick.. its not an assuming its simple a psychological Thing. You also have to work hard if you want to step up in your Job.. you cant tell your Boss "Hey i got a busy Reallife, just give me Money and let me stay at home"..

I think the biggest Problem is the self-centered thinking of most People and like i said in another Thread.. THIS WONT HELP SE to make out of FFXIV a great Game. People dont want a copy of another simply Game.. they want to play Final Fantasy and HELL SE needs to make challenging Stuff. NM's spawming every 1-3 Minutes? Im bored of that allready and a lot other ppl i know are also bored since they got everything allready.. In 3 Weeks noone will camp them anymore cause everyone will have the Items they want, so SE can delete them.. Do you guys want that? And even making them rare/ex is a thing i dont get.. Make them just rare, Push up Poptimes.. make it a challenge, Scale down Droprate and Economy will go up..

Guy1:"Hey i got this Drop"... "Im going to Sell for 500k.. its rare Stuff"
Guy2:"Oh look this Items is 500k.. i made that much Gil out of Crafting, i will buy this and e-peen it"
Guy1:"Oh someone bought it.. now i can buy me some nice Gear someone crafted"
Guy2:"Ha i got the money back i spent.. someone bought some of the Gear i crafted.. now i will go out and farm more Stuff with friends".

That is how it could work and that is how it worked out in FFXI. I have tons of Gils in FFXIV and no idea what i should spend it on, since i can get everything by myself very easy and quick. The only thing i buy atm are mats for my Crafts.. but thats it.. i also could go out and farm them but since there is nothing i need gil for i just do it that way..

According to the amount of Time i spent im somewhere in the middle between casual and hardcore.. but if i play i do the Stuff i do Hardcore.. lets fight this.. ok lets go out.. we fought, we got drop, see you tomorrow.. if i see people sit around the whole day and complaining about how is everything still to hard i really get pissed.. if you just want to sit around and not doing any challenge.. seriously you are in the wrong game. Maybe you should play.. WoW.. i know TONS of WoW Players and they are all the same when they tried this out: "Man thats hard.. that takes to much time.. this is not 100% Drop?".. What you think why WoW got 3+ Mils of Players? NOT because its an awesome Game....

If you like/love Final Fantasy go hand in hand with SE and try to help them creating a BIG TITLE of Final Fantasy. Making Stuff easy to achive is NOT the way of a Final Fantasy and never should be...


I could go on for like 4000 more Lines but going to WORK now.

If you find Ironic.. keep it.. you are allowed to loot.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

@ kaeden XD
no matter what you say in the end, everyone will end up having all the gear if they go after it. Just because an item is "hard to get" don't mean ppl will not get it. I seen tomes of ppl with "rare" items. Like kirin top is like a dime a dozen. Same for various other stuff. The only way to call an item rare is if it is in limited quanities like 1 time event rewards. Like the matador style buffolo event where you got the +emn sash. But with mmo nearly all items are avalible to everyone it is jusyt getting it.

@ nero not to sound rude, but try not to bring in drama from "the other thread" alot of ppl dislike lotto spawns cuz its boring. You get lucky or you don't.
And zen I tried farming like that and still wasn't lucky. Thats why i think the wide scan theory is iffy. Not the ph thing.

[Nero]

@ nero not to sound rude, but try not to bring in drama from "the other thread" alot of ppl dislike lotto spawns cuz its boring. You get lucky or you don't.
And zen I tried farming like that and still wasn't lucky. Thats why i think the wide scan theory is iffy. Not the ph thing.

It sounds rude, but i dont care. Drama? Dont get me wrong but English Forums are ALWAYS drama. lol

Well actually i dont know if you can say "a lot dont like it" because its boring. How can it be boring if SE give you a challenge? Either you win it or you dont.. Dont you think it would be nice for people if they could say: "YES i won this challenge"?

AND beside that.. i NEVER got Leaping boots. I got loads of Stuff, all i want actually.. all i needed for my Jobs.. but one thing i never got.. Leaping boots. I could have go over it but i tried again and again since i wanted it to drop finally, you know.

[Luluna]

I have to agree and i love the new NM's but i would prefer if they weren't popping back so quick. I loved NM hunting in FFXI from the lower to the higher level ones it was fun and added excitement. These new NM's are nice and in the right direction but they are a little easy to camp...they are NM's, they should be more than just a quick repop.

[Suirieko]

After my experience with lottery pop and annoyances in FFXI... well, I'll let him put it this way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isnbx7leSKc

[YUGON]

Lottery Spawn <Yes, Please>

I would like High Time Pop's NM's too, but that would be better to be planned in the fuuuuuture :P

[Kilta_Firelotus]

It sounds rude, but i dont care. Drama? Dont get me wrong but English Forums are ALWAYS drama. lol

Well actually i dont know if you can say "a lot dont like it" because its boring. How can it be boring if SE give you a challenge? Either you win it or you dont.. Dont you think it would be nice for people if they could say: "YES i won this challenge"?

AND beside that.. i NEVER got Leaping boots. I got loads of Stuff, all i want actually.. all i needed for my Jobs.. but one thing i never got.. Leaping boots. I could have go over it but i tried again and again since i wanted it to drop finally, you know.

More or less was asking you just to stick to the topic at hand and not bring in the casual vs hardcore flame war :3

[Kilta_Firelotus]

I will say I do find it funny, tons of ppl I met on ffxi hated the lotto spawns and the 24 hours. And the fact ppl want them again is silly. (talking top my ex he was at work when the twister hit) and he is saying the same thing. He knows tons of ppl who complained about the lotto spawning. (and he ant no casual).
His words: I think people should make up their minds and stick to it, and stop complaining when they get what they wanted after complaining.

[Moth]

Lottery pop is fun ^^ it keeps ya on your toes! Please add lottery spawn again~

[Kaedan]

@ kaeden XD
no matter what you say in the end, everyone will end up having all the gear if they go after it. Just because an item is "hard to get" don't mean ppl will not get it.

Umm... of course if you go after an item and put the effort in to get it... you'll get it. That doesn't in any way change the fact that it's rare. You could spend hours and hours and get every item in the game... but rare items (read: more difficult to obtain) would still be rare. It's not whether you can get it... it's how common it is to see and how much effort it takes to obtain it.