FATE System -- Worst Idea Imaginable

[Cingen]

I level through FATES and the main story quest mainly, but for a specific reason.

I plan to level all classes to cap eventually, and I realise that over time less people will be doing FATES because they're at level cap, so I just thought: Why not go with FATES now while the people are there and save the quests for leveling other classes once I may struggle finding other people to play with?

[Cingen]

Oops double post, ignore this

[Balzaque]

IMO if they scaled the mobs better to accommodate more players then it would be ok, every time im leveling and i find a fate and there is just the right amount of players there then it is fun, when there is too much ppl you hardly can get a hit on any mob unless you spam aoe

[Reitrenner]

FATEs suck the life out of this great game.

[wingofbenu]

Play the game the way you want, I personally enjoy Fates and dungeons.

the problem is theres no "playing the way you want" if FATES give such better exp rewards than anything else that all your friends who do FATES outrace you to the end by weeks.

[Raansu]

I feel like the FATES should be more like world bosses than what they currently are now which is just a group of mobs spawning over and over.

[Meleoron]

i want to echo all the talk of AOE spam and just pure zerg mindset that fates are. I avoid them now, which is harming my EXP. I just am so bored of AOE AOE AOE dead. we might as well just be standing there pressing one button again and again, which is in fact what we are doing. I feel that fates. The idea of sudden public quests are a great idea. However they have been planned out poorly.

I would like to see each zone having one big boss fate that spawns every few hours. A boss that plays out a lot like higher level instance bosses do. It would be nice if Fates felt flashyl if they felt a lil hard at the very last. The game has a few problems and fates being mostly trash is near the top of the list.

[Themis]

I personally think that the boss FATES are strong enough but the ones with waves of mobs needs to be more tougher and last longer since they're being zerged too quickly that if you don't manage to claim your own target the exp and gil you get are weak. That is a challenge in itself however since most people tag mobs either with aoe or just hit it and run to the next one so that they can get any drops for having tagged it first, even if they don't do most of the damage. I've seen the same thing happen with quest mobs too.

Of course, this isn't the good kind of challenge. Challenges should be fun. This isn't.

Like many things, FATEs are a great concept but have been implemented in a way that makes them easy to abuse and it comes down to a conflict between the two (and between those players who just see highest exp/hr numbers, and those who want to enjoy things as they were designed).

i want to echo all the talk of AOE spam and just pure zerg mindset that fates are. I avoid them now, which is harming my EXP. I just am so bored of AOE AOE AOE dead. we might as well just be standing there pressing one button again and again, which is in fact what we are doing. I feel that fates. The idea of sudden public quests are a great idea. However they have been planned out poorly.

At this point, we may as well be given the "instant lv50" button. It would save the mindlessness of FATE grinding, and save people's time which is really what FATE grinding is doing - it would take longer without doing it (nostalgic thought: I remember when I first hit the level cap in my first MMO, it was such an incredible feeling - I've never felt that since; it's just a race to the end now).

[Draconigenae]

Eh, I am not sure what you are on about. I do play the game the way I want, so what you are saying is rather nonsense. Regarding FATE, I like them as well? They were fun at lower levels and even at higher levels as long as there is fewer people. Its just once you get in the 30-50 range they become surprisingly common, give massive amounts of xp, and form long cycles that can be farmed quite easily. It is asinine to think this is "balanced" or at all desirable except for those who are rushing 50 at all costs.

Not just that but when those 50+ fate farmers show up it ends up giving some rendering issues
in the svana fate, in the final part when svana the dragon shows up, i see her then she vanishes and then i cant even attack it and gain very little exp
mind you though around 30 - 50 people are attacking it

needs to be fixed
when a few people are in it, like around a regular party worth of people, then fates are very fun

[Zsavooz]

yep! Baal runs from Diablo 2. Fates killed this game. Bah! Meh!