great that is exactly the kind of advice i was looking for. Dont need a road map if we know what to do in general. I did what you say, jumped on the boss as soon as i could and kept at it and that was what got us thru i am pretty sure. I was afraid i was not doing enough about the others, but i see that i was probably not ...so will focus on keeping them mad at me as much as i can. It is hard if they are all over and i am facing the boss in one area and there are secondary enemies running around here there and every where but i will try. thanks again.