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    TheKurgan's Avatar
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    The time to fix these issues was before the Release. It should have been pushed back if they were unprepared for the loads (which should have been obvious due to preorders). I sat quietly as a 90000 ghost in Beta I even sat quietly through early release. Although that was the only reason I preordered and was the start of trouble. We all have a right to be displeased. I paid for a game I can only play at 12AM and that's when they do maintenance so they kick me off who has been trying to get in all day. I don't accept yoshi-kohai's apology. They knew there would be more of us in the NA/EU area and yet there are more Japanese servers. This 1017 thing also is unfairly targeting certain players. Namely anyone who has to move their PC for work or who have to turn it off at night to save on electricity or for whatever reason. The game is out don't talk down to us like we don't understand server loads. Square are the ones who obviously failed to understand them.

    But for now I guess I'll just get used to seeing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u0EL_u4nvw from Yoshi-chan.
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    ARRGoyle's Avatar
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    Kasumi Quinn
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheKurgan View Post
    The time to fix these issues was before the Release. It should have been pushed back if they were unprepared for the loads (which should have been obvious due to preorders). I sat quietly as a 90000 ghost in Beta I even sat quietly through early release. Although that was the only reason I preordered and was the start of trouble. We all have a right to be displeased. I paid for a game I can only play at 12AM and that's when they do maintenance so they kick me off who has been trying to get in all day. I don't accept yoshi-kohai's apology. They knew there would be more of us in the NA/EU area and yet there are more Japanese servers. This 1017 thing also is unfairly targeting certain players. Namely anyone who has to move their PC for work or who have to turn it off at night to save on electricity or for whatever reason. The game is out don't talk down to us like we don't understand server loads. Square are the ones who obviously failed to understand them.

    But for now I guess I'll just get used to seeing "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u0EL_u4nvw" from Yoshi-chan.
    You make perfect sense to anyone with a rational mind but we are talking about fanboys. There's nothing rational about their train of thought. They serve two and only two purposes. Defend SE's honor like a lapdog and act as caricatures for our amusement.
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    To OP

    If they have not finished preparing the game and the servers to host it on, they should not have released the game. When a consumer pays for a product, they expect to use the product how it was intended to be used. I do not think FFXIV was intended to challenge users on how fast they can lick a login button over and over again. With the current climate right now, there should be no excuse why we havnt even gotten an update as to why the servers are just imploding left and right.


    "this game has a HUGE over response that was NEVER anticpated by anyone in the game industry ...professional or supporting like me. None of us expected this. It is wonderful but...the internet has limits. It is a finite system. It is like the freeway. If there are more people trying to travel than the system can handle, there are traffic jams. No one sues the State Highway departments for being stuck in traffic. You and we are all STUCK IN TRAFFIC. so please just do other things and wait like the rest of us. I cant play the game either because i am waiting for the physical game. I am trying to help new players and help keep us calm and peaceful in the meantime. Lets just take it easy and be nice. "

    this here proves to me that you know nothing about how servers or data centers work. In no way does this games launch effect the entire internet like you propose.... It was a lack of preparing and not have servers ready for a MMO launch. This game lacks successful leadership, the ones in charge should have predicted a turnout then compensated for more. Im not sure if they conducted a beta stress test... they should have if they did not.
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    At the end of the day they have people sitting in the log in screen trying to gain access to a live game, at this point the users are the ones who are suffering. Frankly its poor customer service and it needs to be fixed. The fact that the problems have been going on for almost a full week is inexcusable. The game is very polished but so many features are lacking:

    1) No auto-kick system.
    2) Little to no Que service for waiting in line.
    3) Constant errors that disconnect people or wont allow users to log on.

    How long am I expected as a customer to sit here and attempt to access the game I payed for, they really dropped the ball on this one. Especially with certain competitors around the corner with new content being released soon and even brand new releases slated from other developers. This is your 2-4 week window to try and sell your game to people and retain them past the 30 days. It is almost a week in and I cannot even fathom handing SE a sub for this debauchery next month, look at casual players that in-essence make up the tigers share of MMO sub fees. People who log in for 1-2 hours a sitting. At this time people are spending anywhere from 15+ min just to gain access and this is being nice. Today alone, I have been trying to log in since 10am this morning and still cannot gain access.

    I have several friends who are interested in this game and I just don't know what to tell them, I cannot at this time refer this game to them in this state nor would I. Go spend your hard earned money on something you can play.

    From a service standard don't even think about handing customers 7 free days, that's garbage. You messed up and are wasting people's time. The standard I hold myself (and I am in a service industry) for each day you waste of a customers you not only need to refund them that day but award them something. You need to bring that customer loyalty back, this means it costs something to you. Refunding the days people lost is just giving back what users lost, your not giving them a reason to stick around at this point. I am not going to suggest policy to SE but from my standpoint. The decisions to sub past 30 days will determined by the effectiveness of how they deal with this problem.

    If I am not mistaken they said a server fix was coming for this week so customers expect that they can log in without issues next week (I believe that expectation was set) and secondly they expect recompense for poorly delivered service. It any of this is delivered poorly I can see it greatly effecting the retention rate of this releases after 30 days beyond what SE already expects to lose (and I am sure they have done the calculations).

    Good Day.
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    Quit making excuse's for these guys, it aint their first rodeo. I made it through your first sentence then instantly started hearing Charlie Browns teacher....
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    CrisGer, as much as I agree with you, I have to say you are wasting your time. There is no getting through to these people. Solid facts don't matter, because they can only accept that which makes them madder. The mob mentality has already taken over, and it will only subside once everything is fixed. After that, the slightest glitch will set off another wildfire of hate and discontent. It doesn't matter that the issue is being worked on, making the flood of complaints pointless. It doesn't matter that that flood is making these forums almost useless. It doesn't even matter that such behavior is hurting those who actually come here for real help.

    They have an overwhelming need to slam their heads against a brick wall repeatedly, hoping a door will magically appear. Eventually, they will give up long enough to realize they can just walk around it. The trip will take time, but it will be worth it....

    Edit: Thanks for the quoted replies full of personal attacks. They've proven my point perfectly....
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    Last edited by fixitman; 09-01-2013 at 07:16 PM. Reason: blasted typos, still getting used to G710+

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    Holo Okami
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    Quote Originally Posted by fixitman View Post
    CrisGer, as much as I agree with you, I have to say you are wasting your time. There is no getting through to these people. Solid facts don't matter, because they can only accept that which makes them madder. The mob mentality has already taken over, and it will only subside once everything is fixed. After that, the slightest glitch will set off another wildfire of hate and discontent. It doesn't matter that the issue is being worked on, making the flood of complaints pointless. It doesn't matter that that flood is making these forums almost useless. It doesn't even matter that such behavior is hurting those who actually come here for real help.

    They have an overwhelming need to slam their heads against a brick wall repeatedly, hoping a door will magically appear. Eventually, they will give up long enough to realize they can just walk around it. The trip will take time, but it will be worth it....
    You lack the ability to keep an open mind about the situation. You are taking this companies spoon feeding.

    Buying this game is like buying a shovel that wont dig. Would you happily accept a shovel that did not dig if you were the one who spent money on it? I dont think so... to help your insignificant brain cell count understand, here are a few more examples of what buying this game is like under the current situation.

    Like buying a video game you cant play
    Like buying a cup that wont hold liquid
    Like buying broom that cant sweep
    Like buying a spoon that cant spoon!
    Like buying a clock that cant keep time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fixitman View Post
    CrisGer, as much as I agree with you, I have to say you are wasting your time. There is no getting through to these people. Solid facts don't matter, because they can only accept that which makes them madder. The mob mentality has already taken over, and it will only subside once everything is fixed. After that, the slightest glitch will set off another wildfire of hate and discontent. It doesn't matter that the issue is being worked on, making the flood of complaints pointless. It doesn't matter that that flood is making these forums almost useless. It doesn't even matter that such behavior is hurting those who actually come here for real help.

    They have an overwhelming need to slam their heads against a brick wall repeatedly, hoping a door will magically appear. Eventually, they will give up long enough to realize they can just walk around it. The trip will take time, but it will be worth it....
    Yes, because acting like you're above the rest of these lowly rioting peasants is helping matters.

    I fully understand that their jobs will only get even harder as people get angrier but posts like this are what REALLY gets me mad. I'm not even that angry at SE for how they have handled this launch, just disappointed.

    You on the other hand are insufferable. You act like the players are mindless rebels who find any excuse to rage. On the contrary, we have been waiting an extra 3 years for them to rebuild a game with a massively failed launch. The beta was messy at best and the pre-release was a nightmare. I wanted to play all weekend and maybe got 3 hours of gameplay. They decided to still go through with the full release EVEN THOUGH they knew their servers couldn't even handle the current load. We paid for a game we cannot play, but worst of all we are not even being told WHY we can't play it. It's one thing to have lots of maintenance with updates on what is going on. It's another to act like there is no problem and keep people in the dark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrisGer View Post
    I am trying to help new players and help keep us calm and peaceful in the meantime. Lets just take it easy and be nice..
    ...and you think writing all that patronizing, condescending BS is gonna help?
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