Instant Dungeon

[gifthorse]

seems like its impossible to join party unless you have good linkshell.

how about develop team create instant dungeon where other people from different server can join. that way at least we can have decent party and have fun.

W... T... F

This isn't Call of Duty. This isn't a lobby game.

[Commat]

W... T... F

This isn't Call of Duty. This isn't a lobby game.

So if SE does implement a dungeon finder what will your stance change too?

"This shouldn't be a lobby game."
"I quit."

Or

"I have been running dungeons nonstop all day! I have met several awesome people already and had a great time, this is so much better then everyone standing around a crystal all day doing nothing!"

Remember their will always be the optional
"It doesn't really matter too me as i play with friends and LS mates but when no one i know is online it is cool that i can just craft while waiting for the dungeon to start."

[gifthorse]

So if SE does implement a dungeon finder what will your stance change too?

"This shouldn't be a lobby game."
"I quit."

Or

"I have been running dungeons nonstop all day! I have met several awesome people already and had a great time, this is so much better then everyone standing around a crystal all day doing nothing!"

Remember their will always be the optional
"It doesn't really matter too me as i play with friends and LS mates but when no one i know is online it is cool that i can just craft while waiting for the dungeon to start."

People miss the point of what an MMO should be if they want the game world to be an entrance lobby to the "real content". Why don't we all just go and play GW1?

[Commat]

People miss the point of what an MMO should be if they want the game world to be an entrance lobby to the "real content". Why don't we all just go and play GW1?

Good point, and i personally agree. especially in FFXIV where a seamless world was what players were promised.

With that said, times are changing and this game is going to change in big ways along with it. Many of those changes rely on the community excepting that "what an MMO should be" no longer means what it used to.

Its all what you want to do, sir. Keep on making statements that are quickly turning into lies or get with the times and enjoy what it brings.

It is AOK in my book to want what you want but "should" and "shouldn't" will never outweigh "what is".

[Shiyo]

W... T... F

This isn't Call of Duty. This isn't a lobby game.

Yeah, people basically want to turn MMO's into FPS/D2/lobby games, then I quit MMos all together ^-^

"I have been running dungeons nonstop all day! I have met several awesome people already and had a great time, this is so much better then everyone standing around a crystal all day doing nothing!"

Yeah I sure hope I run dungeons with awesome people I'll NEVER SEE AGAIN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE and be unable to talk to or group with again, wow what a great adventure that would be!...

No, just no. I can run "dungeons" and level and do everything in the game(i partied to 50 on my archer) and make tons of friends on the way, friends I'll be able to play with again, talk to again. Real friendships. Not being able to make friends in a MMO is a real killer for me, sorry but I'll instantly quit over a dungeon finder if it's cross server. Hell, a in-server one is dumb too, unless it also allows me to make my own parties and people can see it on the list..oh wait isn't that what we currently have? lol

I never "sit around all day at a crystal", maybe you should stop being anti-social/a loner and make friends/your own party? I'm pretty sure people are just too anti-social in this game then complain when they can't find parties or people to play with, so devs have to cater to these anti-social rejects with derp derp automated grouping, yay?

[Commat]

Yeah I sure hope I run dungeons with awesome people I'll NEVER SEE AGAIN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE and be unable to talk to or group with again, wow what a great adventure that would be!...

You are totally right. How could i have been so ignorant in thinking SE would/can implement cross server friends lists and chat, maybe even tools to que up with them.

I never "sit around all day at a crystal", maybe you should stop being anti-social/a loner and make friends/your own party? I'm pretty sure people are just too anti-social in this game then complain when they can't find parties or people to play with, so devs have to cater to these anti-social rejects with derp derp automated grouping, yay?

It doesn't matter what i do. The fact is, what i have described is happening right now, in game, as i type this. You are %100 correct that the game would be more fun if everyone talked and grouped up. We are %100 correct that they don't.

If they implement this and you quit because you cannot stand sharing a game world with people that play differently(worse) then you then, honestly, that sucks. Good community members shouldn't be forced to leave. Unfortunately, sometimes they are.

And i understand why you are so angry(you might not be but i felt you were from your post). But overall, game players have trouble finding things to do without tools to feed them the content. So SE will most likely do what they can to "cater to these anti-social rejects with derp derp," whether the current community likes it or not.

Thanks for reading, was a bit long winded.

[Frisque]

game players have trouble finding things to do without tools to feed them the content. So SE will most likely do what they can to "cater to these anti-social rejects with derp derp," whether the current community likes it or not.

So SE is required to literally spoon-feed their players?

Maybe instead, SE should try to find a compromise instead of just catering to the instant-gratification needs of part of the player base.

[Commat]

So SE is required to literally spoon-feed their players?

Maybe instead, SE should try to find a compromise instead of just catering to the instant-gratification needs of part of the player base.

I don't appreciate that kind of attitude. It gives the impression that you judge entire groups of people that you don't even know.

Game systems that take out unneeded time sinks and boredom are good. They would not be "catering to the instant-gratification needs" of anyone. They would be facilitating the use of the parts of the game that people find enjoyable.

If you find enjoyment in asking friends or others to help you accomplish goals then fine. A lot of people don't and would rather experience parts of the game without the hassle.

I still don't understand how the content its self is any different regardless of how the group came to being. What lvl of coordination and skill the content is geared towards is a hole different matter entity.

So can you drop the old man looking down at the rest of the world act now? Instant gratification is part of the human condition and has been since recorded history. Sometimes it is fun running past steps 1 2 and 3 to get to a more enjoyable 4.

What you have to take into account before anyone will take you seriously on the subject is that if the people involved have skipped over steps 1 2 and 3 when it comes to skill, coordination, and planing they wont make it through the dungeon anyway. And that is the dedication the game should take into account, not pro Facebook friend finder skills that you deem so very important.