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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    We discussed all of the latest opinions with Yoshida. While it won’t make it in time for the implementation of the raid dungeons that the development team is working on currently, we’re planning on implementing enhanced LFG (looking for group) and automated party creation features.

    Also, while it won't be an easy task, we are also checking into the discussions for a cross-World instant party creation system.

    Please continue to leave feedback so that your time and experiences while tackling dungeon-related content in the future can be enjoyable!
    1. This will be a great addition to game play. It will accommodate those who do not have a linkshell or group of friends to play with and or it will allow those players who do not have a shell to participate in a great game activity. There should be activities in game that allow people to have a generally solo career and be successful.

    2. Will this ruin the community of the game? I doubt it, with all the other content that the game provides why do you consider that this will be it's Achilles Heal in regards to the game community. I think you are jumping to conclusions and should see the results of it being in game before you shun it.

    3. For those of you saying you don't want or like it... You do not HAVE to participate in it. There are plenty of people who will participate in it and enjoy it. Why would anyone mind brining in more content and a variety of the likes that we never saw before in XI? I am personally excited about SE looking at this

    4. Not everyone has the time of day to get together a group of people and do a dungeon. This would allow for people who are more casual to be able to group up and have success in this area. As an example: We run an NA / EU linkshell unfortunately we are light on EU people at this time, so this content would allow our EU members to participate in content we are not always able to accommodate them with. Not to mention it will allow for some surprise and variety while doing dungeons and or a chance to play with other community members and make new friends...

    5. Those of you saying you would quit because of "this" or "that" which was implemented are being selfish and immature. Do you not realize that using a threat to promote fear is the same as terrorism or a terrorist threat? You should be ashamed and truthfully anyone who provides such a worthless comment or post in this regards should just leave anyway. We do not need people being immature. Fine go have your tantrum but SE doesn't need people like you here and neither does the community. Give constructive feedback or log off.

    6. "Omg I might die in this dungeon, omg people may go afk, what if this guy is a noob, this group may not have a clue how this dungeon works... Omg GM Dave shows up and throws me in a dungeon with Fafnir..."
    Really? Stop being so elitist and learn how to play with others. It's called a game and we are hear to have fun. There is going to be a % of people who don't understand or it will be there first time. It is called helping and educating people. Or like I said above you do not need to participate in it at all, that would fix your concerns right? Besides the fact of the matter is you can do dungeons without having to do the random dungeon finder.... do it with your friends who are good enough for you and be done with it.

    There is nothing wrong with cross server communication and interaction... if anything I see it as being very beneficial. That is if they mean cross server or just across your own server and that is the world they speak of. The only thing I see in these posts of doubt is FEAR. I am not a mind reader nor can I predict the future and neither are you or can you. For my part I am going to support SE on this because the truth is none of us know any of the negatives that will come of these dungeons being implemented IF ANY... All I know that gaining any new content in XIV and new between XIV and XI is a good thing. I am excited that the creators and devs are willing to explore new options for our MMO.
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    Last edited by Eclipse; 04-21-2011 at 11:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    1. This will be a great addition to game play. It will accommodate those who do not have a linkshell or group of friends to play with and or it will allow those players who do not have a shell to participate in a great game activity. There should be activities in game that allow people to have a generally solo career and be successful.

    2. Will this ruin the community of the game? I doubt it, with all the other content that the game provides why do you consider that this will be it's Achilles Heal in regards to the game community. I think you are jumping to conclusions and should see the results of it being in game before you shun it.

    3. For those of you saying you don't want or like it... You do not HAVE to participate in it. There are plenty of people who will participate in it and enjoy it. Why would anyone mind brining in more content and a variety of the likes that we never saw before in XI? I am personally excited about SE looking at this

    4. Not everyone has the time of day to get together a group of people and do a dungeon. This would allow for people who are more casual to be able to group up and have success in this area. As an example: We run an NA / EU linkshell unfortunately we are light on EU people at this time, so this content would allow our EU members to participate in content we are not always able to accommodate them with. Not to mention it will allow for some surprise and variety while doing dungeons and or a chance to play with other community members and make new friends...

    5. Those of you saying you would quit because of "this" or "that" which was implemented are being selfish and immature. Do you not realize that using a threat to promote fear is the same as terrorism or a terrorist threat? You should be ashamed and truthfully anyone who provides such a worthless comment or post in this regards should just leave anyway. We do not need people being immature. Fine go have your tantrum but SE doesn't need people like you here and neither does the community. Give constructive feedback or log off.

    6. "Omg I might die in this dungeon, omg people may go afk, what if this guy is a noob, this group may not have a clue how this dungeon works... Omg GM Dave shows up and throws me in a dungeon with Fafnir..."
    Really? Stop being so elitist and learn how to play with others. It's called a game and we are hear to have fun. There is going to be a % of people who don't understand or it will be there first time. It is called helping and educating people. Or like I said above you do not need to participate in it at all, that would fix your concerns right? Besides the fact of the matter is you can do dungeons without having to do the random dungeon finder.... do it with your friends who are good enough for you and be done with it.

    There is nothing wrong with cross server communication and interaction... if anything I see it as being very beneficial. That is if they mean cross server or just across your own server and that is the world they speak of. The only thing I see in these posts of doubt is FEAR. I am not a mind reader nor can I predict the future and neither are you or can you. For my part I am going to support SE on this because the truth is none of us know any of the negatives that will come of these dungeons being implemented IF ANY... All I know that gaining any new content in XIV and new between XIV and XI is a good thing. I am excited that the creators and devs are willing to explore new options for our MMO.
    1. I do not, and will not understand why anyone would play a Massive Multiplayer Online game solo. This is against the premise of an MMO.

    2. We are not jumping to conclusions. Those of us opposing this system have encountered it in several other MMOs and have seen what effects it has on a servers community. Don't make snap judgements before you have your information, and be sure to read peoples' posts clearly as it has been stated by I, and several others that we have seen this happen already.

    3. Your previous point stated how we were jumping to conclusions by stating this would harm server communities, while you proceed to tell us that if the feature is implemented "you don't have to use it." So, you're saying this won't harm the server community, yet are promoting that people do not use this function who don't want to......... further segregating the community?

    4. This is one of the benefits I have seen from the dungeon finder, and that is convenience. But convenience kills games. I like to my games to have a bit of depth to them. If I can do everything extremely quick, I've no reason to play the game long.

    5. You're going on about being respectful & immature while wagging your finger at people... So I say to you as well, give constructive feedback or log off.

    6. Again, you spout off like you're some kinda messiah, telling people to be respectful and not immature, while proceeding to do more finger pointing & accusing of players for what they have concerns for... so... hypocrite much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeter View Post
    I am all for great LFG options but I am highly opposed to cross server dungeons. I have played other MMOs with this feature and it kills server communities. There has already been a lot of discussion on why many people share this opinion I hope it is taken into consideration. Cross server queueing made WoW feel like a shallow lobby game and not a world. Everyone stands in town queueing for PvP or Dungeons. It is one of the biggest reasons I left WoW and I probably won't hang around FF14 if this happens either. I am looking for world + community feel which the genre seems to be losing.
    ty for the post, was going to say the same thing but i see you said it already
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    LOl i laugh at these threads

    its old generation versus new generation !!

    Its the generation brought up on WOW, LOTR and other similar MMOs Vs Ragnarok, FFXI, Everquest.

    Lets face it us old gens just like a challenge and a some feeling of achievement

    the new gens wantr content content content and gear gear gear !! - its a reflection of the change in societal values, could u seriously imagine life without constant internet access on your phone or the brand new app from the I store.

    Its sad but true.

    Im an old gen, I like my grind and my community and banding together for random made up quests like lets try and take down a lvl 80 creature or lets run lvl 1 through a high level area. nope theres no gear reward or dungeon bit of kit or money. its simply a good laugh with your linkshell.

    the reason this game may fail is because the new generation doesnt want to play with other people they want to be better then other people.

    Just my thoughts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonka View Post
    When a community rep finally comes along and clarifies that they just mean the LFP tool will work across the world (server) and not limited by zones or what have you, I will have a hearty chuckle at everyone's expense.

    SE hasn't even given us the ability to kick someone from our Linkshells unless they are online and directly next to you...and you think they can muster up a cross-server LFP tool? Right. XD
    SE has to give a way to kick out from a linkshell, even if players are offline or out of sight, but you can kick from a party, so I don't see a problem kicking a player in a LFG.

    I will enjoy a well baked cross-server LFG.
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    I personally think the worst thing about a server-spanning system is that going to instances becomes TOO easy. Whilst I'm not a fan of excessive waits and inconvenience, I think making instances the main source of content for the game is an equally awful situation.
    In that situation (and the same in WoW to the extreme), the dev team spend AGES making amazing zones and then proceed to put nothing but pointless little quests in them and no future content outside of dungeons.

    It's absolutely a community and (god I really don't want to use this word) immersion killer, compare it to FFXI where up until Abyssea and the cap raise (and game decline) people were travelling all over the world for various different things.

    Yes, we should have dungeons. But they should feel special and like a semi-unusual occurance, not the standard way to play the game. Bring us NMs, storylines, overworld content and endgame zones preaze (not just levels to get the last couple of levels ala. wow, really dangerous zones containing the toughest NMs and really good equipment! Mor Dhona would sort of be a good place for this at this point)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog View Post
    Stop stating your opinion as fact. There are some people that find cross-server dungeons fun.
    I'd like you to point out exactly where in my statement I said anything about facts. Right... I didn't. I stated my opinion... if you have a problem with it and disagree, perhaps instead of flipping out, you should try to explain why you find them fun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasagawa View Post
    LOl i laugh at these threads

    its old generation versus new generation !!

    Its the generation brought up on WOW, LOTR and other similar MMOs Vs Ragnarok, FFXI, Everquest.

    Lets face it us old gens just like a challenge and a some feeling of achievement

    the new gens wantr content content content and gear gear gear !! - its a reflection of the change in societal values, could u seriously imagine life without constant internet access on your phone or the brand new app from the I store.

    Its sad but true.

    Im an old gen, I like my grind and my community and banding together for random made up quests like lets try and take down a lvl 80 creature or lets run lvl 1 through a high level area. nope theres no gear reward or dungeon bit of kit or money. its simply a good laugh with your linkshell.

    the reason this game may fail is because the new generation doesnt want to play with other people they want to be better then other people.

    Just my thoughts

    This is very true. I'm definitely an Old gen myself (started with AoL Neverwinter Nights and UO... O.O). Though I'm willing to make compromises for what I want. I just wish the New gen would be willing to do the same. But they've been brought up with this over-inflated sense of self-entitlement, so it makes it difficult a lot of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    I'd like you to point out exactly where in my statement I said anything about facts. Right... I didn't. I stated my opinion... if you have a problem with it and disagree, perhaps instead of flipping out, you should try to explain why you find them fun?
    How about you explain why they're not fun with that smug attitude of yours?
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    Last edited by Sonic_the_Hedgehog; 04-22-2011 at 01:48 AM.

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    All the proper reasons have been stated already, but i would like to add a +1 to those who would rather not see a cross-server LFG system for instances.
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