Poor FFXIV

[Kirith]

You see, the error in logic you're making here is that you are putting forth the premise that your opinion is fact. It is not. "Exceptional", "Great", "Good".... these are all subjective words. You may think something is bad, but someone else thinks it's good.

Obviously, i am saying that based on strictly empirical data. Data i gathered by frequenting FF communities in the last 14 years(the first site i ever browsed on the internet was a FF fansite), reading reviews, arguing every game that came out since, growing with them. Data any long time fan can see and gather. With this simple knowledge i can easily say (and i tried to explain it in my previous posts) that the fan community as a whole has a large number of people having my same opinion.

Just read this thread. How many people liked 6-9, found 10 ok and disliked, or have negative things to say about 12 and 13? It's not even a matter of statistics, it's just the running opinion. I can step in any generic FF forum and find lots of people agreeing with it. This is the cold fact i am basing my opinion on it.

If you take two games and ask people "which one is better" you will clearly have more or less fired up opinions on both and you won't be able to call one game better than the other without making a statistic or careful analysis, however when you hear people say "i liked these four games of the series, then they went downhill", it's already a form of statistic because it summarizes opinions about every single of those games. It's a lot harder for two people to agree on a series of opinions like this. Therefore, when you see lots of people agreeing on such a specific series of opinions you can guess that there is a certain phenomenon at work that must be correlating them.

Finally, looking for the cause of such phenomenon, you have two choices. It's either the players or the games themselves. However, between millions of players from different nationalities, different social statuses, radically different cultural backgrounds and a single company with few persistent heads and leaders, which one is more likely to be the cause?
The answer won't be 100% reliable, but it's a good starting guess.

[whoopeeragon]

Ostia, I can give you a full essay on how the Crystal is reincarnated into each of those games you have mentioned. Different names does not mean that they are not classified as Crystals. Magicite, materia, and heck, even the Lunatic Pandora's crystal was CALLED a crystal. Please READ my actual post. Or I will be tempted to write a full essay on each game's crystals and their function for the story and the playing.

EDIT: Thank you, Bled. -hugs-

[Ostia]

Ostia, I can give you a full essay on how the Crystal is reincarnated into each of those games you have mentioned. Different names does not mean that they are not classified as Crystals. Magicite, materia, and heck, even the Lunatic Pandora's crystal was CALLED a crystal. Please READ my actual post. Or I will be tempted to write a full essay on each game's crystals and their function for the story and the playing.

EDIT: Thank you, Bled. -hugs-

Sure tell me how Magicite from FFVI was a crystal.......

[Bled]

Sure tell me how Magicite from FFVI was a crystal.......

http://images.wikia.com/egamia/images/2/2f/Magicite.png

looks a lot like crystals to me..

http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/...e_by_Orinn.jpg

Magicite is the stone form of an Esper. Once an Esper dies, they turn into Magicite.

[Ostia]

http://images.wikia.com/egamia/images/2/2f/Magicite.png

looks a lot like crystals to me..

http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/...e_by_Orinn.jpg

Magicite is the stone form of an Esper. Once an Esper dies, they turn into Magicite.

No shit, they look like a crystal ? Just because they look like a crystal does not means they are the same crystals from the previous 5 games, their creation and purpose in the game is different than those before before, hell their entire concept in game is not the same.

[Elexia]

No shit, they look like a crystal ? Just because they look like a crystal does not means they are the same crystals from the previous 5 games, their creation and purpose in the game is different than those before before, hell their entire concept in game is not the same.

They wouldn't call it crystallization (FFVI) if it wasn't a crystal, crystals in FF serve different purposes, especially in the later games when the world is suddenly no longer governed by mothercrystals.

Also, XI's Magicite:
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Magicite:_Aurastone

Crystals aren't just one thing in games, especially in FF games.

[whoopeeragon]

No shit, they look like a crystal ? Just because they look like a crystal does not means they are the same crystals from the previous 5 games, their creation and purpose in the game is different than those before before, hell their entire concept in game is not the same.

Thank you, Ostia, for supporting my point. When have I ever said that the Crystals in each and every game was the same? They all served different functions, yet they were also pivotal to the plot, or aided as tools for the gamer to use. There is no correlation between the Crystals of ALL of the FF games. However, you cannot deny that Crystals have appeared as a major theme throughout all the FF mainstream games.