Poor FFXIV

[Kaedan]

And sales figures have nothing to do with how good a game is. After all, how can any of those 6 million buyers determine whether or not they like the game until they play it?

Actually, it's one of the only hard determining factors we have. The first week FFXIII sold 1.5 million copies. Even if every single one of those people were the "bought it but didn't like it crowd" (which is ridiculously unlikely), that still leaves 4.5 million people that bought it with enough time to read the reviews.

Btw, FFXIII has an average score of 83-85/100. Sorry, not a crappy game.

And lol at the guy who claims that it's a fact the game sucks because the "common opinion on message boards and fansites is it sucks". Sorry man, A) that's still just your personal interpretation and B) that isn't backed by the evidence in any way.

[Elexia]

Just because a game sells 6 million titles does not make it good. I bought the game first week and I didn't like it, just because I bought it didn't make it a good game, it sold 6 million copies because it had "Final Fantasy" before it. I didn't call it the worst game ever, but they did cut out all the exploration until the last 20% of the game............(thats really all I can say)

Honey bee, when games suck they don't sell a lot because word of mouth gets around and it will prevent sales. People seen streams, gotten info and etc on FFXIII a quarter of a year before it released to the west, it wouldn't have sold well in the west if it truly did bomb as a game.

Linearity in itself isn't a bad thing because people forget every FF game is linear till GENERALLY around the last half of the game, because you're typically "following a trail" and can rarely divert from that path due to invisible plot walls...FFXIII just had literal walls.

[ladynei]

i dont carry i will buy every thing FF related no mater what, heck i own both ff3 on ds and iphone now. i would buy ff16 if i was a game about changing the colors and tone in the title screen.

[Bled]

I liked FF13. It also sold over 6 million copies, so it didn't "suck" for a LOT of people... thus deserving of it's good reviews.

Just because a game sells 6 million copies dose not make it a good game, and please never make that correlation. The Final Fantasy Franchise is a gaming power house with tradition, and expectations. I am one of those people who bought Final Fantasy XIII because it was a Final Fantasy much like I'm sure the majority did. Shortly after my purchase of the Final Fantasy title I realized it was different crap from Final Fantasy XII but still crap. Square Enix has so far in my book made 3 blunders Final Fantasy X-2, XII, and XIII needles to say Im not buying Final Fantasy XIII-2, i learned my lesson.

Edit: Ever since the merger of Square and Enix to make the crap tastic team Square Enix we have not seen a good Final Fantasy outside of a few decent FF games.

Square had classics like Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, Secret of Mana, Seiken Densetsu 3, Xenogears, Brave Fencer Musashi, Parasite Eve, Parasite Eve 2, Saga Frontier, Romancing Saga, Vagrant Story, Kingdom Hearts, and of course FF. what the hell has Square Enix done that will be as memorable as those titles, for me that just one game Final Fantasy XI...

[zaviermhigo]

Just because a game sells 6 million copies dose not make it a good game, and please never make that correlation. The Final Fantasy Franchise is a gaming power house with tradition, and expectations. I am one of those people who bought Final Fantasy XIII because it was a Final Fantasy much like I'm sure the majority did. Shortly after my purchase of the Final Fantasy title I realized it was different crap from Final Fantasy XII but still crap. Square Enix has so far in my book made 3 blunders Final Fantasy X-2, XII, and XIII needles to say Im not buying Final Fantasy XIII-2, i learned my lesson.

true strike. exactly what I was trying to say. Square enix has not made a good FF title in my opinon, Squaresoft on the other hand has. FFX was the last squaresoft rpg, and FFXI was the last squaresoft FF title. After XI, everything is square enix. I don't hate enix actually (dragon warrior monster I and II are some of my favorite, I can't put my finger on why the merge would effect it at all, I just noticed that the good games were made under squaresoft in my opinion.

[Yellow]

Final Fantasy 13 seems to appeal to a different player base than their original player base

[zaviermhigo]

I guess the question here is, is a new player base necessary. They're assuming this new playerbase A) will buy more copies, B) no new players would be attracted to the old game. (this can't be true since a lot of people buy the remade FF's on DS, and a lot of these people had never played the title previously)

Its like what they did with FFXIV, instead of going after WoW or whoever's playerbase, they first should of tried to take XI's playerbase [which they haven't actually, XI's playerbase is growing and is making people wonder what its life expectancy really is, they're adding new content to it also which will prolong it]so they could have people pay for this game, and then go after a new target. Alienation of your actual fans is a bad business strategy no matter how you cut it.

[gifthorse]

The worst thing about FFXIII wasn't the gameplay, LOL. It was the annoying, sappy, shmaltzy, sentimental drivel that they used as a basis for the story, not to mention the ridiculous final boss fight that made absolutely no sense.

And how many times can Final Fantasy characters use the expression "I was just running away" before it gets really repetetive and annoying.

Every single game there always has to be one tortured emo kid that is "just running away" and ends up facing his problems. It's retarded. It was okay when Shinji Ikari did it in Evangelion, but now that every single character has the same sob story, I'm sorry, but nobody cares anymore.

Lightning was an interesting character, hiding behind her macho facade, but did she have to spell it out for us?

The whole thing was just so laboured and contrived and it annoyed me to death. Like it actually killed me.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

Actually, in every past FF free roaming was a mirage. You could roam around, but you were very dependent to the veicles you had in that moment. that's mean, until you get airship, it's a fake free roaming sice you can't go truly everywhere.
In most western rpg instead, you could go everywhere from the beginning, if you can survive :P

Btw, the hell is this topic for ? <_<

[chime85]

I was rather disapointed with FFXIII. Ok, the graphics were top notch, but that doesn't make up for lack of story-line.

Also, the whole Linear thing has never worked for me in regards to FF games. It didnt work with FFX, STILL didnt work with FFXIII. There was a major lack of side-quests. The ones they offered were repetative and gave nothing extra to any aspect of the game.

On the plus side, the music was nice, and they had an interesting twist on the fighting system which kept it fast paced and enjoyable.

I truely hope the FF series gets back in touch with its roots.

Kimiko x