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  1. #11
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    Aaros Lunos
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    I don't think this is lag related. My LS has been camping these NMs and there have been several occasions where we do get the first hit on the mob, including damage, but then someone else gets the claim. If it were lag or other latency problems I doubt it would go from landing a hit to, being engaged. It almost seems like you need to get two consecutive hits for the claim to be official.
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  2. #12
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    Xatsh Vei
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    This happened to my linkshell several times tonight in my 30 group killing the nms today.

    We would get first hit on the mob (which was an non-agro mob) would even come over and hit our member who hit it but the other group would actually have claim.

    There is a bug with claiming atm, either that or some new claim block mechanism like they had in XI designed to stop botting.
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  3. #13
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    Zenaku Yamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    It has nothing to do with hate, nore your ISP speed, its purely lag on their end.

    I used to be on a crappy ISP like 1mb lol and I could outclaim so many people on different things because I realised the initial delay.

    its kind of similar to how XI has that "cannot insta claim" they put in where you have to wait 1-2 seconds except it doubt its intentional due to: You can claim via missing the mob and the other person full on wacking it or critting it.

    I know it has nothing to do with hate because I remember a memoriable moment when I went to claim against a much higher rmt player and I claimed but missed and the rmt wacked a mob and had hate, then got nailed on by the mob until he died XD. fun times.

    Its just either bad server lag or a not-properly defined anti claimbot feature like XI's (which failed lolols)

    If you want to claim all the time just delay a second (or use spirit dart ! )
    RMT is not like a real player they hack. FFXI system works by hate then they added 10secs before you can attack a mob and if a mob would attack you if they just pop you have 10sec to leave before he see you and attacks. I know this very well because i remember it from playonline when they update it.
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    Dubont Matteus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    RMT is not like a real player they hack. FFXI system works by hate then they added 10secs before you can attack a mob and if a mob would attack you if they just pop you have 10sec to leave before he see you and attacks. I know this very well because i remember it from playonline when they update it.
    this isn't the case with 14. If I'm solo camping a mob with no one else around, I can easily claim as soon as it pops.
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    Noticed this too while camping nms with our ls party.

    I even took 1000 damage from the mob after attacking it only for it suddenly to be taken by another party. I was clearly still on the nms hate list somehow.
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    We had an issue last night with our ls camping against 2 players not from japan, multiple times we damaged the mob and had hate but did not get claim, the mob even attacked some of our members but still went red to the other party, this is a definite issue with the claiming system not with lag. It is especially funny when the mob is attacking you and you cannot kill it.
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  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Person musta been from Japan...
    This is a moot issue ever since the west finally moved on from dial-up.
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    Bolter Auros
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    I was helping my LS with Kokoroon as well... basically 4 times he spawned right next to me, I provoked, saw the effect go off, only to have an arrow that hits the mob from across the room 2 seconds later claim him. Claiming, provoke, or archer is very broken at the moment.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    This is a moot issue ever since the west finally moved on from dial-up.
    Internet speed has nothing to do with latency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Internet speed has nothing to do with latency.
    Bandwidth does however, and dial-up is generally on the low end of bandwidth allocation.
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