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    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    show me a vid of faerie in hard mode chain healing b4 u say bs. Any experience sch knows that faerie isnt perfect compared to regen.

    I have an idea, why don't YOU post a video with Eos in range of the tank *not* casting for 6 seconds when (s)he's missing HP.

    That is such a ludicrous claim I can't believe you're even posting it. A 4-6 second delay on the Faerie healing would make Scholar healing impossible. It's been noticed, acknowledged, and praised by several posters that the Faerie AI has no delay or susceptibility to latency.

    Edit: Updated to respond to your insane logic. Even if it took Faerie 4-6 seconds to heal 300 value, regen still takes 5.5 seconds to do the same amount of healing and costs a WHM mana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiloni View Post
    Where do you get the idea that Regen only heals for 300 potency? For one thing it's a 21 second HoT with an instant cast time, not a 23.5 second HoT. Secondly it heals for 150 potency per tick for 7 ticks for a total of 1050 potency over 21 seconds.
    The way the tool-tip was phrased in Phase 3 (and maybe 4) described it as being 150 value spread out over the 21 seconds.

    New tooltip:
    Grants healing over time effect to target.
    Cure Potency: 150
    Duration: 21s
    Recast Time
    2.5

    So you're right on my values being incorrect.

    However, the 23.5 seconds comes from having to wait 2.5 seconds to cast your next Regen, as I was responding to someone talking about casting 2 regens for the 300 value (150x2).

    So we're really looking at Regen doing 150 value after 3 seconds, and 300 value after ~5.5 seconds for 22.5 seconds. Which makes regen an extremely powerful spell - and definitely better than Eos's Embrace by itself.

    Thanks for the clarification and fixed said posts with your correction.

    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    LoL so bad schs keybind embrace ? btw you prove regen better then embrace, regen will always heal every 2.5 , faerie will only heal by herself if target is at a % hp deficeit
    Considering it's common knowledge that you can't cast your own spells when trying to cast pet spells or vice versa - you just admitted you prioritize using a 300 value heal from a pet instead of one of your own 400 or 600-1350 value heals in clutch situations.

    And Eos get's a 100 value HoT that can be applied to 8 targets. Why are we even comparing a single target pet heal to regen from a class ability?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scerick View Post
    The way the tool-tip was phrased in Phase 3 (and maybe 4) described it as being 150 value spread out over the 21 seconds.

    New tooltip:
    Grants healing over time effect to target.
    Cure Potency: 150
    Duration: 21s
    Recast Time
    2.5

    So you're right on my values being incorrect.

    However, the 23.5 seconds comes from having to wait 2.5 seconds to cast your next Regen, as I was responding to someone talking about casting 2 regens for the 300 value (150x2).

    So we're really looking at Regen doing 150 value after 1 second, and 300 value after 3.5 seconds for 22.5 seconds. Which makes regen an extremely powerful spell - and definitely better than Eos's Embrace by itself.

    Thanks for the clarification.



    Considering it's common knowledge that you can't cast your own spells when trying to cast pet spells - you just admitted you prioritize using a 300 value heal from a pet instead of one of your own 400 or 600-1350 value heals in clutch situations.

    So yes, you're bad.
    Physick 1.94 cast 2.4 gcd
    Aqum 1.94 cast 2.4 gcd

    I mash embrace while healing so in the .5 sec of time i should be "free" to give command
    Normally heals occasionally doesnt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scerick View Post

    Considering it's common knowledge that you can't cast your own spells when trying to cast pet spells - you just admitted you prioritize using a 300 value heal from a pet instead of one of your own 400 or 600-1350 value heals in clutch situations.

    So yes, you're bad.
    Actually he's right, it's better to control your pet manually. Your pet's GCD is separate from your own, so if you keybind his skills and tell him to cast Embrace right before you cast your own heal, you and the pet can both heal the same person at the same time nonstop. You're not using your own GCD to tell the fairy to heal and he then can cast the skill while you cast your own. All you do is instant click the Embrace keybind, then click your own heal. What you can't do is cast your heal first and THEN tell the fairy to heal, but you can easily do it the other way around, which makes total sense if you think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    Physick 1.94 cast 2.4 gcd
    Aqum 1.94 cast 2.4 gcd

    I mash embrace while healing so in the .5 sec of time i should be "free" to give command
    Normally heals occasionally doesnt.
    Quote Originally Posted by Leiloni View Post
    Actually he's right **snip for length**
    When I click Embrace while my GCD is on CD, she doesn't respond. How do you have it keybound? Are you using a macro, binding a key to the pet bar, or dragging it out of your Pet section of character abilities?

    The whole basis of my argument is that I feel like I've had to both wait for GCD to be off CD and wait for her to start casting before I can start my own heal.

    If this is not correct - my keybind is broken and I concede that I am wrong.
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    Last edited by Scerick; 09-06-2013 at 04:30 AM.