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    So what's up with shields?

    There has been a back and forth discussion for a while now about when the stats of a shield actually come into play.

    Some say the stats only work if the shield is up.
    Some say that stats only work if the shield is up and you aren't fighting/casting.
    Some say that stats don't work at all with shields so they are pointless, aside from for a defense buff on GLA (Twisted logic...)

    So does ANYONE know the correct answer for this? People are trying to figure out the best shield to use for mages...
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    thats seems a bit weird........ So you equip a shield and the stats only work if you have it in the block position. Is it a bug? Because that kinda sounds silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    thats seems a bit weird........ So you equip a shield and the stats only work if you have it in the block position. Is it a bug? Because that kinda sounds silly.
    Why is that weird? It makes perfect sense to only gets the stats when you use it.

    If you notice, when you equip a shield, you don't get any stats on your attributes screen unlike the other equipment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    thats seems a bit weird........ So you equip a shield and the stats only work if you have it in the block position. Is it a bug? Because that kinda sounds silly.
    while it IS weird, most people seem to think that it only works when you block on attack...but not when you attack (even with your shield up) which would make the attack rating, magic accuracy rating and magic potency rating completely useless...this is the extremely confusing part
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    Make guard a proc and have the stats apply when it procs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeno View Post
    Make guard a proc and have the stats apply when it procs.
    Sorry, we are talking about the system that is currently in place...and even with your idea, it wouldn't make much sense to have offensive stats on a weapon where the stats only work on a blocked attack ><
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    This is as dumb as Gear Swapping. If you equip a shield it should give you the stats all the time no matter what you do with it.
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    seeing as you don't block attacks unless you have the shield up, it makes perfect sense for stats to not apply unless it's activated.
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    Attack stacks also make sense IF they are used to calculate things like a shield bash, etc. Also, auto proc on block is eh. I like active blocking. I like anything that makes your job active. I for one love that as a LNC I can do better than the next guy because I know how to off-tank and use that to control where the mobs stand so i can line them up and hit them both at once. If I were to play a GLA (which, admittedly I don't) I would prefer to have to make the choice between attacking to get more hate, or blocking to stay alive longer. Choices like that and whether or not you make them properly are what differentiate between good players and great players. A good play gets his shield up, waits for an attack, puts his shield down. A great player gets his shield up in the last split second before the attack, and gets it down just as quickly after the attack.
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    with Shield of the Savage, we know that its +12 Max HP really work
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