Dodore over nerfed(and other nms too)

[Keftenk]

The crit doesn't always happen and it has a WIDE range of dmg, just like every other crit value in this game.

[Xenor]

I don't know what to make of these changes. If you compare old strength of NMs to new strength, yes they're easier if you compare fighting them with 8 people. But if you compare fighting old strength with 15 to new strength with 8 I think they've become a bit more challenging. That said, making an easy challenge a little more challenging doesn't make it hard.

[Apricoth]

"I'm a grumpy old troll... Who lives under the bridge! I am a grumpy old troll.. that lives under the bridge. If you want come over, all you have to do is this...! All you have to do is this.... Solve my riddle!" Dora the Explorer, Grumpy Old Troll.

I wouldn't mind seeing more rank 50 worthy NM fights in FFXIV. There is the roaming buffalo that is still a challenge apparently with an eight man group. It sounds like Dodore shouldn't have been touched with the nerf bat. Other than guild leves, it would be great to see more. I will be waiting patiently as usual. ^.^

[Danielle_Vahn]

They didn't increase the buffalo strength at all and I can tell you that because I tanked it with my THM and it did the same damage to me as he ever did whenever I grabbed hate or ran too close to him.

I don't understand why they had to dumb down the old NMs, we were able to kill the Buffalo with just 4 people 2 times (We were ARC, PGL, MAR and me THM) in about 20-23 minutes before the patch, heck I even duoed him before but I had to reset rage once for that, but now that they reduced his HP I doubt I even need to reset rage anymore. I also duoed the Elder Mosshorn with my friend Sakura (PGL) post patch wich we were not able to do before because they were 7 goats total and we got our butts kicked badly the 2 times we tired to do so, but now that they removed 3 of them the fight was much easier.

If that's not easier to you then I'm afraid to hear what that would be, I really am.

[Visch]

If that's not easier to you then I'm afraid to hear what that would be, I really am.

If you haven't noticed the self proclaimed "majority" (the 13 ~ish people who post on the forums more then they play the game) want everyone to be able to obtain anything they want no matter how much they play and no matter how bad they are in less then an hour.

A THM in my LS went out and duo'd dodore for a while yesterday and got 9 wings. 9.

I don't know how much easier anything could be and people still think it's hard. And anything they add in the future will surely have to become easier because people will cry about it.

[Danielle_Vahn]

Seeing Dodore with just 3 minions made me really sad, I was really hoping they would not touch the old NMs after the party reduction but they did. I am not complaining about the new NMs because those are intended for ppl rank 40-45 solo or a party of rank 30-35 guys and that's ok but who said the old 5 were hard? And even worst thought they needed to be dumbed down for the party reduction. When I found out about it on the patch day I felt really bad and scared of the direction the game is headed.

Accelerator Scarlet from the Gyshal server soloed Great Buffalo on Thaumaturge yesterday.
Kaeko Leta (Kanican) just completed a solo against the new-nerfed Mosshorn. He'll be releasing a video soon.

The Great Buffalo was soloable before the patch you just needed to reset his rage more times that is all.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

Seeing Dodore with just 3 minions made me really sad, I was really hoping they would not touch the old NMs after the party reduction but they did. I am not complaining about the new NMs because those are intended for ppl rank 40-45 solo or a party of rank 30-35 guys and that's ok but who said the old 5 were hard? And even worst thought they needed to be dumbed down for the party reduction. When I found out about it on the patch day I felt really bad and scared of the direction the game is headed.

I'm with ya there. The only challenge I feel is getting claim over the NMs now that more groups feel comfortable with fighting the NMs and I'm usually solo when I decide to do it. However, solo or low man was just for the achievement and to test your ability as players/as a player. Taking Emulate out of the equation and the strategy to reset rage timers, I don't know if the NMs were intended to be at that difficulty. I'm on the fence about that part though.. as I feel even without those things it would still not be that huge of a challenge to a small group even pre patch.

I think if a reasoning was posted along with the change, it would combat the uneasy feeling players such as us are feeling about the future and wanting to be challenged even more. Or.. who knows? Confirm it. I am hoping it is due to the huge battle system overhaul and changes in the skill/stat modifiers.

[Drex]

Me and 3 of my ls mates are doing all the NM without thm .... like this there is some challenge, but Se needs to set max 4 ppl in pts..

Usually when we doing NM in 8 Im watching TV....

[Rentahamster]

Seeing Dodore with just 3 minions made me really sad

Yep. The NMs didn't really need to be nerfed. It was hilarious, though, seeing people post in the 1.17patch notes that the "rebalancing" would make the NMs harder. lol

[Keftenk]

They nerfed the shit out of all of the NMs, including Great Buffalo. It can now be solo'd by Thaumaturge.