To the people who are logged in overnight

[Neonewtype]

My numbers came from a screen cap from a Japanese article that was tracking population numbers at launch. Not exactly a straight forward method of getting info

[Mahari]

And what about the selfishness of you "log off, you damn, dirty afkers" type of people? Telling people to not play a game they paid for(cause lets face it, especially over this weekend and today, if you log out, only a miracle will get you back in) so other random people can play, and you MIGHT get in .0002 seconds faster is just as selfish as afking.

Sorry, you already crippled your weird "I know you are, but what am I!" response there: "not play a game they paid for", the key word being "Play". You're not playing, you're idling. That's the problem. If you can get in, great, play for 12 hours, but actually play for that time. When you're done, log out and let someone else play. If you can't get in, sorry, but that's the boat we're all in right now, and idling in the servers is only making it worse.

Are you seriously suggesting I'm selfish for pointing out that idling your character in the servers 24/7 might be a dick move?

[Anderian]

Such anger in this thread. People calling each other idiots too now in responses to other peoples' post. Makes me chuckle

I'm not angry, I'm disappointed. And it's starting to really bleed through since this has been going on for so long now. Instead of listening to us, you actually STRIVE to make things worse. And that makes me sad.

[Ruprect]

Put in an afk timer, and it won't matter how many people try to stay logged in. This should be a common sense solution, no matter how band-aid it might be right now. IMO, there should be an afk timer even after the fix/upgrade coming Tuesday.

Edit:


I see people post this, and yet there is provided no good reason why this is a terrible solution. I think it's a great solution, and cannot understand why it didn't come out of the box with an AFK timer. There's no legitimate reason why a character has to stay logged in for hours on end without the player being present.

I can give you one straight away:

I am playing and suddenly I have to get up to take care of something other than a video game (you know RL). I come back 10 minutes later to see I have been automatically logged out and am not able to get back in because of a huge queue.

[Flarenza]

Because the people they are yelling at are NOT playing it? They are just taking up valuable space for no reason whatsoever. There are only 5000 spaces per server. Assume that 10,000 people are trying to play at any one time but 1,000 of those spots are taken by afkers. That makes only 4000 spots left for them to fight over which drastically increases the tim to get in. As more and more people afk the number could reach 2500 or higher makking the times reach unrealistic proportions. This happened in Aeon and when they started booting afkers the queues dropped from the thousands taking the entire day to get in to hundreds and taking only minutes.

[Lithiena]

To all the people complaining to the people staying logged in overnight: get a clue.
This isn't our fault, this is entirely Square Enix's fault and incompetence for not putting in an auto afk boot that kicks you after 20-30 mins afk (much like WoW has). Combine that with a proper queue system that doesn't break when theres more than 10 people in it and these problems will be a thing of the past.
Personally I don't mind sitting in a 10k queue, at least I know it's actually going to get me to play at some point, what I do get headaches over is having to spam the login button over and over again. Besides, spamming the login button puts far more stress on the login servers than a simple queue.

[Jintaru]

I've been trying for the past day to log in with no luck. Patience is starting to slip at this point. Either implement an AFK boot system or increase the server limits. Or better yet, just simply end the free period instead of extending it. Punish this behavior instead of encourage it. People who are only around for the free trial period will be booted, and those who legitimately would pay the subscription fee will be able to play anyway. I know I'm not entitled to it, but I'd like to be able to play the game sometime in the next month.

[Straiya]

I can give you one straight away:

I am playing and suddenly I have to get up to take care of something other than a video game (you know RL). I come back 10 minutes later to see I have been automatically logged out and am not able to get back in because of a huge queue.

I certainly wouldn't suggest a 10 minute timer; that's way too short. I agree, people have things come up that need attending to, even as simple as bathroom breaks, smoke breaks, attending to children, and the like. I'm talking about a 30 minute AFK timer, no shorter than that. If life requires one attend to it instead of the game for a period of time that exceeds 30 minutes, then that person should be logged out. If an afk timer existed there would be nowhere near this problem with logging in. It wouldn't solve the problem, but it would begin to address it. AFK timer, login queue, and server infrastructure upgrades are the requisite steps.

[Anderian]

To all the people complaining to the people staying logged in overnight: get a clue.
This isn't our fault, this is entirely Square Enix's fault and incompetence for not putting in an auto afk boot that kicks you after 20-30 mins afk (much like WoW has). Combine that with a proper queue system that doesn't break when theres more than 10 people in it and these problems will be a thing of the past.

Nobody is saying that Square-Enix is without fault here. The queue system is a joke, and yes, there should be an auto-afk timer. But you know what? Those are nothing but excuses for people who leave their character logged in when they go to bed or work, because you know you are preventing another player from playing by doing this.

[Crisco]

<post-size-limit>...afk is the root...</post-size-limit>

Servers are overloaded because they allowed them to become overpopulated, not because of 1-200 afk's. The login servers are seeing such issues because of thousands trying to log in to the overpopulated servers. It's a domino effect that all stems from overpopulation. This is why they're addressing the creation of new servers first while adding stability fixes to the login servers. If afk's were the problem, which is obviously not the case based on their official posts, they would address that first.

I've been trying to be the nice guy and log out at night...and every day I spend hours trying to log in. I will not voluntarily log out any more; burned too many times.