To the people who are logged in overnight

[Mahari]

I had a lot of fun reading this thread and all of the weird justifications for the "F**k you, I've got mine!" mentality that leads to players leaving idle characters in the world 24/7. Does it really have to be Square-Enix's job to force you not to be a selfish ass? You can't figure that out on your own?

[Phoen7x]

I had a lot of fun reading this thread and all of the weird justifications for the "F**k you, I've got mine!" mentality that leads to players leaving idle characters in the world 24/7. Does it really have to be Square-Enix's job to force you not to be a selfish ass? You can't figure that out on your own?

And what about the selfishness of you "log off, you damn, dirty afkers" type of people? Telling people to not play a game they paid for(cause lets face it, especially over this weekend and today, if you log out, only a miracle will get you back in) so other random people can play, and you MIGHT get in .0002 seconds faster is just as selfish as afking.

[Kushino]

If everyone did what you guys are doing, you'd never get in at all. The only reason why many of us has been able to play at least some is because of the people who log out when they're finished. Remember that the next time you get into a queue.

I'm not saying you're bad people or anything, and I do agree with you that this is a logistics problem first and foremost. But we are all aware of the problem, and logging out when you're done allows other people to play. Of course you can stay logged in for 16 hours and hog the spot for everyone because of the 3 hours you're going to play the next night, it's your right to do so. But when we know they're getting this fixed soon, can't we all find it in ourselves to just log out when we're going to sleep to allow other people to play?

We all want to play the game, so until they get it fixed let's contribute to a solution rather than the problem. That's the mark of a good community.

[Ruprect]

Hey guys while we get fixes on the loging issues and sever congestion issues why don't the people who just keep logged in (you know who you are) do the rest of us a favor and just log out while you're not playing and let the rest of us experience the game.

there is no bazzar and no reason to really stay logged in, right now it's just so you won't get the infamous 1017. but maybe things will go a little smoother while the fixes come if we all put in our little effort to alliviate the congestion.

I logged out last night so someone else could play, now I am not able to get in for 2 hours. If I get back in I will not log out until I am forced to because of maintenance. This is why no one logs out overnight, I normally would not have, but I thought I would be nice.

[Straiya]

Put in an afk timer, and it won't matter how many people try to stay logged in. This should be a common sense solution, no matter how band-aid it might be right now. IMO, there should be an afk timer even after the fix/upgrade coming Tuesday.

Edit:

NO AFK TIMER. That is a terrible solution.

I see people post this, and yet there is provided no good reason why this is a terrible solution. I think it's a great solution, and cannot understand why it didn't come out of the box with an AFK timer. There's no legitimate reason why a character has to stay logged in for hours on end without the player being present.

[Ruprect]

Put in an afk timer, and it won't matter how many people try to stay logged in. This should be a common sense solution, no matter how band-aid it might be right now. IMO, there should be an afk timer even after the fix/upgrade coming Tuesday.

NO AFK TIMER. That is a terrible solution.

[Neonewtype]

Personally, I haven't been able to login since Friday, that's with the game running in the background of my computer for the last 2 days and 3 nights, with me trying to login every 30 min or so.

Yes, having an afk kicker implemented would help a lot, but based on the last letter from Yoshida, he's not terribly concerned with implementing one anytime soon. To me, the real problem is server capacity. Right now I can't even hit "Start" on the main menu. There are nearly 24k people on my server and if only 5000 of us can be logged in at any given time, that's a real problem, and afk kicking is only going to resolve a portion of that, and only during the night time hours when the majority of people are afk.

[Gucci_Charms]

Such anger in this thread. People calling each other idiots too now in responses to other peoples' post. Makes me chuckle

[Bolldere]

They will never impliment an AFK timer, it goes against the SE immersion type game style they have created. The quick answer is before the pre-order money came in, they didn't have enough capital to ensure server stability/ server room for the NA/ EU players. They had to recover from a failed launch, therefore capital was likely an issue. Furthermore, how many people will still be playing this game in 60 days time? 1/2 the population, 1/4? This is about money, and your problems don't matter, keep your wallet open, and just keep clicking, or don't, and close your wallet.

[Neonewtype]

I could get mad that people are staying on, but the reality is we don't live in some ideal society where people are going to do things like stop playing a game because other anonymous people on the internet want a "chance" (there are still 19k more people on the server than can play) to play. I didn't pay them for the game and their not responsible for making sure I get to play, that's Squares job.

My problem is SE's ambiguity for a resolution. While this maintenance will add new worlds, its not clear in any way if they will be adding concurrent capacity to the existing servers. If not, then I just have to hope enough people jump ship to the new servers. Even then, there is no way to know what population load is like on those new servers, most people don't know what the current loads are like because they don't give is that information readily.