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    Yenn's Avatar
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    Yenn Sylph
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 80

    Duty Finder - Kick option or stop mixing legacy/non-legacy servers

    We leveled to 50 quickly with the intent of having an easy time running dungeons for gear, because normally, the players who reach max level quickly are all good players.

    Due to legacy players, this is not the case. We're having a really hard time with legacy players who are 50, but extremely bad.

    Roughly 2/3 of our tanks cannot hold threat off of the healer, let alone the DPS. They do not make any attempt to avoid damage. One of them kept using limit break on cooldown, not even during bosses.
    About 1/3 of our healers just mash Cure, without using Cure II or Medica to adapt to the situation.

    When we do get in parties with other good players, they always comment on how good the group is, and complain about their previous groups, so there are evidently a lot of really bad DPS, as well.

    It's so bad that we're just leaving the dungeon and taking the 15 minute waiting period, because these players are performing so poorly that it isn't worth staying.
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    Jean Maller
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    What a rude and pathetic thread, want my feedback, I usually demand to get rid of opinionated elitist kids such as yourself from dungeons; where are your friends if you are so grrreeat?
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    Franz Wyght
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yenn View Post
    because normally, the players who reach max level quickly are all good players.
    I have to disagree with you completely. Most of the time they're people with way too much free time, or exploiters (even though they often deny that what they do is an exploit), and that's on top of being elitists. So when you meet other elitists who don't play games for fun, throw out friend requests, form a free company together, switch servers. Then you can have own little insular group that can talk about how great you are. As a bonus, the rest of us don't have to put up with your vitriol when we haven't min-maxed enough to please you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrek View Post
    What a rude and pathetic thread, want my feedback, I usually demand to get rid of opinionated elitist kids such as yourself from dungeons
    The "great" thing about these elitist snobs? Give it like two weeks and they'll be complaining about how there isn't enough endgame content and run off to another mmo.
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    Stupid idea.... Stop with the anti-legacy crap already.
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    Last edited by Reika; 08-28-2013 at 02:34 PM.

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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    where is the thumb down option?

    we are at very early phase of game

    many players still learning the Dungeons

    if you are so elite, teach them what they have to beware

    of

    you can simply form your own elite group so you dont have to use the duty finder
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    Yenn Sylph
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    I'm on a server with a total of three level 50 players. I queue with one of them, but we don't have the option of forming groups.

    We've found that queueing for Amdapor Keep is better than Wandering Palace, because the unskilled legacy players are unable to unlock it. Either way, it's kind of a silly problem.
    I was under the impression that champions like Garuda, which are very punishing of single mistakes, were to gate these players off.

    The issue is primarily that in order to reach level 50 from scratch, in 2.0, you need to have a good understanding of your class and game mechanics, which comes from various story quests and guildhests. These players completely skipped that. It's almost akin to giving a brand new player level 50 and throwing them into the game. I'm not sure how anyone can defend this.
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    Eiz Zvahk
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Most of legacy players had to adapt to a complete change in their job mechanics for 3 times now, I don't think it represents a big problem. There are minor changes from 1.23 compared with previous changes, mostly in the order you use skills and combos and the loose of many debuff and true strategic abilities (not the joke we've got now) in oreder to make it a more casual game.
    As you progress in quest line you have chance to addapt to changes through lv caps so I think all the thing has been well implemented alhough legacy have to repeat everything.
    But anyway, next time you are in that hysteric attack of elitism in which you despreciate and blame your legacy companions because of this or that, count to 10, deep breath, and remember that if wasn't for those players who paid their fee for 3, 8, 10 months for an unplayable, boring and continously changed game, maybe you were not doing that instance now, wearing that fancy piece of gear or even playing this game at all.
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    Syon Elewir
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Yenn View Post
    I'm not sure how anyone can defend this.
    Simple, it's the second day of official launch <.< A lot of people can't even play and you're complaining that you get teamed up with unskilled players.. Also if you want efficiency there are FCs create one on your server and if there aren't enough level 50s.. help people improve instead of bothering us with your nonsense please
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    Icesmoke Glaciens
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    [QUOTE=Yenn;1095517]I'm on a server with a total of three level 50 players. I queue with one of them, but we don't have the option of forming groups.

    We've found that queueing for Amdapor Keep is better than Wandering Palace, because the unskilled legacy players are unable to unlock it. Either way, it's kind of a silly problem.
    I was under the impression that champions like Garuda, which are very punishing of single mistakes, were to gate these players off.


    you sir shouldnt be allowed to post in this forum!
    bitching about legacy players all the way well better hope to not get in df party with me or i will instantly leave cause even though i like to play with good players but not if they are as..... like you.
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    Reika Shadowheart
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    No, they didn't skip anything. I leveled archanist from level 1 too, and I am a legacy player. You telling me that I don't know wtf to do on arcanist because I am legacy?

    And even if Legacy players chose to avoid lvling archanist, every story and sidequest instance and dungeon lvl syncs you, so they have to learn from the start one way or the other. The only lvl50 content that you can apparently skip right to is Wanderer's Palace.
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