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  1. #1
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    Reibees's Avatar
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    Vesta D'lycaon
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 30

    Are tanks/heals broken? Or am I just unlucky?

    Maybe I am unlucky, but I seem to frequently be having to summon yellow carby and tank AND heal for most groups.

    In all but two of the groups I have been in, the tanks and heals have died, both on bosses and minor trash.

    I'm wondering if there's something wrong here, are the tanks underpowered, or are healers? I'm really quite confused, because I shouldn't be tanking, healing, AND DPSing in every dungeon. Now and then with a newbie heal/tank or someone who was bad? Yes, I'd understand that.

    ..But every one of them?

    I'm only lvl 28, does this get better later on? Is it only because tanks/heals have no clue what they're doing this early into the game?

    I'm losing the ability to tank/heal/dps at the same time the higher level I get, so I'm dreading higher levels.

    EDIT:
    Okay people clearly aren't comprehending what I mean by me tanking/healing.
    I don't just decide "well gee I'm gonna try to tank/heal", I only do one or the other if the tank/heal dies; if both die, I become both. I don't just go into a dungeon with the mindset that I'm an offtank/heal?? Seriously guys come on.
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    Last edited by Reibees; 08-31-2013 at 12:45 PM.

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    Ketsufuma's Avatar
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    Ca'ex Ketsu
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    because you, as an Arcanist, are just that awesome?? i havent the foggiest and have never been out tanked by a yellow carby unless of course the idiot pulls before i do..

    I tank as a marauder and every party i have been in so far as only praised me thus.
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    Amyas Leigh
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    Ragnarok
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Lol, I love being a dps/heal/tank at the same time as ACN! Its awesome! Though, its usually in all dps dungeon parties...
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    Last edited by Amyas; 08-31-2013 at 10:49 AM.

  4. #4
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    Reibees's Avatar
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    Vesta D'lycaon
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 30
    Quote Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
    Lol, I love being a dps/healer/tank at the same time! Its awesome! Though, its usually in all dps dungeon parties...
    Lmfao well I don't mind it, it was fun for a while when tank and heal died, but I'm noticing as I creep toward lvl 30 my ability to sustain both carby, me, and other dps is uh.. decreasing, rapidly. : P So I doubt I'll be able to soon. I fear for my repair bill.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ketsufuma View Post
    because you, as an Arcanist, are just that awesome?? i havent the foggiest and have never been out tanked by a yellow carby unless of course the idiot pulls before i do..

    I tank as a marauder and every party i have been in so far as only praised me thus.

    Eesh. This makes me think I just keep getting bad groups then.
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    Last edited by Reibees; 08-31-2013 at 10:51 AM.

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    Seniade's Avatar
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    Seniade Auhelia
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    I can't talk about tanks 1st hand, but healing isn't broken on CNJ. Might just be bad players trying to jump up the DF queue by going as a class they aren't experienced/good with. Being an all in 1 class is an odd experience though (ran Tam Tara as a ARN with 2 other ARN and a THM).
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    Character
    Shoiko Mitsui
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 52
    I must admit that as im going through the story I felt like a juggernaut until dungeons like BrayFlox where I got my ass handed to me so much. Even with the newest gear, food, etc. It seems that for a tank to tank a dungeon best it better if he is near or at the cap for the dungeon and not just barly matching the level requirements. Other wise GL on beating it.
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  7. #7
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    t0fumast3r's Avatar
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    Tofu Master
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 49
    Tanking is pretty easy pre lvl 35. When u hit Sunken temple of Quarn, it gets a bit tricky since they input mechanics that completely baffled me my first time. Everyone should understand there is a learning curve since everyone is new. Ask for tips and learn it and it gets fairly easier.

    I been playing MMO's a long time so tanking is simple and what i like doing. But i understand where new tanks can struggle, just wait a few for people to get better or guide your grp if you know your way around.
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  8. #8
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    Rproblem's Avatar
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    Karuna Viii
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 33
    remember one day i fighted ifrit. at the start, i over-agro by 2 fire II which made me be a tank , then healer died by inferno , then i become a healer by using ARN healing spell ,until ifrit down

    very interesting, lol
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    Stormlark's Avatar
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    Character
    Ravien Willowsong
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    I'm not sure about the state of healing, because I'm a little out of practice, but it seems to me that there's more of a delay when using actions in this game. Because of this, heals need to be started a bit earlier than one might think. I could see how this would be troublesome to new or less experienced healers. Most of the tanks I've gotten have struggled with keeping aggro, which could also cause difficulties for healers. When I pull aggro from heals, it's hard to resist the urge to heal myself after being hit, and it takes a bit of trust that the tank will be able to pull the mob(s) off of me if I just stop casting for a while. I could see how healers might struggle to get used to these nuances when they first start grouping.
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  10. #10
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    Indira Cliodhna
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    this is a gear score game if your gear sucks you suck. some times in 8 man partys with two WHM's heals wont keeps up with the damage there taking if the tanks are too soft.
    you have no choice but to have atleast AF or colbalt armor when you hit level cap other wise you going to be soft. you have no chioce but to keep your gear up to date by level.

    i wish SE didnt take this route should of stayed with some kinda skill to win vs needing a certain amount of DEF or DPS to win a fight, as a DD or mage your basicly 1-2 shots on a boss then your dead, on lv50 ifrit you either have a SMN or BLM to LB the nails or your dead, unless you guys are gimped you'll cut it close.
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