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    Fantasy, plausibility and Item drops...

    Put it simply, I don't like the idea of having random NMs drop equipment. Convenient yes, but otherwise it is no good.

    -> First, it detracts from the current plausible item drop system.
    E.g. Animals drop hides and meat -> Logical and plausible.
    What about stones and arrowheads? Herbivores may consume stones for digestion and the arrowheads may be left embedded in the animal on earlier hunts.

    Some may be a little of a stretch but still within the realm of plausibility. Chicken meat from Gnats? Although far from appetizing (or hygienic), I can easily envision a gnat preying on a chicken.

    Fafnir dropping swords in FFXI - Fair enough. After all we're fighting in it's lair.

    -> Second, it undermines the necessity of crafters. The original trend of having NMs drop materials is a lot better.

    -> Third, an unbelievable element in a carefully constructed fantasy world is a flaw. Eorzea is far from being a whimsical world where buildings are built at impossible angles or things happen with no rhyme or reason. It is a steampunk setting with a fixed set of physical rules.

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    Put it simply, what's the sheep doing with a ready-made armor?

    Qiqirn with bow and armor - OK!
    Sheep with armor - Not OK!
    Cactuar with fists and helmet - OK! (Have head and hands)
    Slug with shield - Not OK!
    Imp with Staff - OK!
    Deer with Staff - Not OK! Some prankster tied it to the underbelly or something?
    Bomb with ICE sword - ??!? Not OK!
    Monkey with Bow - Not OK!
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    This is why they should just drop materials for crafters to turn them into something...

    It is like Single player RPGs. "Where did that honey bee get 1000 gold from!?"
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    I agree, it's not that I don't want NMs dropping equipment, but I think they should be dropped by humanoid NMs.
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    Osarion Durai
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    Totally disagree with your main point. NMs dropping gear is a staple of MMOs. Not everything needs to be 100% reality.


    Character being able to carry 100 scythes -- also not ok?
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  5. #5
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    That too.
    Look at D&D with weight and space limitations and Dungeon Siege with your trusty Donkey. Those are real attempts to make a fantasy world plausible.
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    Don't you know, we have invisible moogles that follow us around that carry all our stuff?
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    Dubont Matteus
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    I have to disagree. This game involves crafters enough as it is. There should be SOME gear that the crafters can't control because up until now, every piece of gear was crafted which meant if you were not a crafter, you got the short end of the stick.
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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    Says the non-crafter . Everyone should be ranking up crafts, then no one would be at 'the whim of the crafter'
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    The point is that this game is treating crafters as normal classes, so they should be involved too, still to have every NM dropping only materials would be a bit too much there has to be both and since we need NMs dropping materials and NMs dropping finished items why not doing it in a rational way?
    Again, the current NM we got to with the last patch dropping finished items is something fine, but I would have liked much better if the Taurus Staff, in exemple, where dropped by a thaumaturge elezen instead of an antelope... Also because it would be cool to have humanoit NM.
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    Probably because its Notorious Monster and not Notorious Outlaw.
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