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    Rainbowsaurus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandark View Post
    No hips, no shape, girls are not supposed to be hipless, butless, legless..
    There's not one type of body shape, you know? Girls Aren't "supposed" to be anything. We have big butts, small butts, big boobs, big waists, small hips, weird noses and everything in between. Not to mention that I really think you are stretching it if you really think that the female cat model has no hip or butt at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vandark View Post
    the Female Miquo'te now lack shape and the female Miquo'te body now appears to be structured incorrectly.
    It's structured like a petite kind of body. It's not even that different from the 1.0 version.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vandark View Post
    I love this game but this one thing I can’t overlook, the body shape no longer looks normal it ruins the immersion.

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    The fact that my characters shape looked normal in 1.0 but no longer dose is a massive disappointment to me.
    So, because the hip and butt might be a little bit smaller, then it's no longer normal? I'm thinking your standards for normal are a liiittle bit narrow, don't you think?

    Also, the fact that you took your time to draw all this diagrams and comparison pictures tells me you might be overanalizing this. If you have to point it out with yellow lines and people still don't see the difference, maybe it's not as massive as you say it is.


    Quote Originally Posted by Vandark View Post
    When compared to the flawed 2.0 body shapes the 1.0 character models for all races were superior with a very noticeable difference in size and shape of characters entire bottom half.
    Again with this. In your opinion, if the body shape does not meet your extremely narrow standard (so narrow, that only a couple of pixels of difference basically destroy the game for you), then it's flawed, not "normal". You need to start seeing women outside of your computer screen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vandark View Post
    Before anyone says anything to me about this being petty or about something sexual
    This post is the definition of petty. And your diagrams are so weirdly specific that are borderline fetichistic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vandark View Post
    I will ask you this simple question.

    What is so appealing about the 2.0 body shape? The fact gear no longer fits, or the fact that the Miquo'te doesn't have a female body shape anymore.
    I wonder what kind of women do you meet daily, again, you are saying that there's only one female body shape, and it's ridiculously specific.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vandark View Post
    Sure you can increase bust size, thats a good thing to add why not.
    Although this feature would have been much nicer if the bust size was an addition to the 1.0 body shape but the 2.0 body shape looks really hideous.
    When increasing the bust size in 2.0 this only causes your characters shape to become unproportional.
    It's the same body shape. Maybe it's a couple of pixels smaller. And it's "hideous". You are overreacting a little.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vandark View Post
    Please help me help bring back shape to our characters so we can ware all our gear without it making our eyes hurt.
    I am tired of wearing robes to hide my characters lower body because I can’t stand the sight of her now miss-shaped body.
    It... makes your eyes hurt. Maybe if you spend more time playing the game instead of staring at your own ass, you will start enjoying it more.
    Also, if your character is using robes to hide her body, she has self-esteem issues and probably an eating disorder. Then again, you are saying that her perfectly good body is "miss-shaped", so maybe you are a bad influence.


    Quote Originally Posted by Vandark View Post
    This is a fault that needs to be fixed, and I can’t enjoy the game to its full potential until it is, I can’t just un-see this when it’s in my face every time I play.
    Please Yoshi I really hope you can do something about this because for some of us this is a real problem and it’s making the game less enjoyable for me and I know I’m not the only one.

    Why should I be satisfied with this when 1.0 players were promised more not less, anything less is a mistake in my eyes and this is a mistake.
    Yeah, I'm sure this is at the top of their list of priorities. Listen, if you can't enjoy the game because you perceive your character's butt as a little bit smaller than before... you need to step outside and reevaluate your entertainment choices. Seriously, it's fine to have a preference or to wish that the character models were different or whatever. But going as far as calling this a game breaking flaw, or saying that the model no longer looks like a woman is a little bit much.

    TL/DR: You wish your character's butt were bigger and made diagrams to show it. This is petty and whiny.
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    Player Vandark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbowsaurus View Post
    Tthe fact that you took your time to draw all this diagrams and comparison pictures tells me you might be overanalizing this. If you have to point it out with yellow lines and people still don't see the difference, maybe it's not as massive as you say it is.
    I noticed it immediately and it’s a huge difference in game, I drew yellow lines to show just how extreme the difference really is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbowsaurus View Post
    So, because the hip and butt might be a little bit smaller, then it's no longer normal? I'm thinking your standards for normal are a little bit narrow, don't you think?
    It doesn't look normal anymore IMO because gear has empty spaces where it used to connect and for those who choose a busty upper body the difference in the lower body makes it far worse. Why give us an option for more bust if the lower half of our body shrinks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbowsaurus View Post
    In your opinion, if the body shape does not meet your extremely narrow standard (so narrow, that only a couple of pixels of difference basically destroy the game for you), then it's flawed, not "normal". You need to start seeing women outside of your computer screen.
    It doesn’t completely destroy the game but it does make it much less enjoyable over all to be unsatisfied with my characters appearance when I was previously satisfied.

    You would be shocked at just how large the difference really is in game, it’s not missing a couple of pixels your underestimating the difference entirely.
    Think of it like this a ball has a mass from every angle remove that mass and it loses size from every direction, every perspective.

    If I drew circles around the new rear VS the old it would show a huge difference in size and those pictures I posted where the body used to connect to the end of the equipment, can you honestly say that looks like a few missing pixles?
    More like it’s lost half its entire overall size, did you know the rear used to actually protrude from the leg and actually connect lower to the leg showing roundness, now the rear looks like it's a part of the leg.. Like it's just one continuation from leg to hip.

    And when I said the entire lower half of the Model used to be larger I'm not just talking about the backside which btw is horrible now I'm talking about everything down there, legs used to be thicker and the hips used to be more round and larger.
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    Last edited by Vandark; 09-01-2013 at 11:19 PM.

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    lol what a joke, 13 pages of this, guess sloots gonna sloot
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    I haven't played my Miqo'te as much, since they put me on an EU server, but I did make a Roegadyn female and noticed it immediately. She's thick in all areas just like I like em, except for her backside. It's flat as a board. I actually ignore gear now like subligar, despite stats, because they look so rediculous.

    Granted, this isn't anything I'm going to unsub over, but it does make me go 'Why fix what ain't broken?'
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    Player Vandark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by maniacal1 View Post
    I haven't played my Miqo'te as much, since they put me on an EU server, but I did make a Roegadyn female and noticed it immediately. She's thick in all areas just like I like em, except for her backside. It's flat as a board. I actually ignore gear now like subligar, despite stats, because they look so rediculous.

    Granted, this isn't anything I'm going to unsub over, but it does make me go 'Why fix what ain't broken?'
    Yea I've seen the Roegadyn my sister in law made one, they have one of the worst lower body's I've ever seen in a game for a female character, for real.
    Why fix what ain't broken? I feel like it's pretty broken and needs some attention.
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    Player Vandark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuko View Post
    I'm not insulting you. I genuinely thought you didn't know because I noticed your response to my questioning you which you then edited to remove the word 'vasectomy'. A mistake is okay, but I just wanted you to know. I'm also not trying to troll your topic, but I do think it's a bit silly, especially since you are arguing that the proportions are unrealistic while I am SITTING in my computer chair with those TINY proportions. They DO exist.
    No I was meaning to say caesarian, yes it is very late, anyways back on topic.
    It's not abnormal to have very slim characteristics, the smaller features aren't so bad if thats your style and prefer these features, your character probably has a very petite upper body by choice as well and I see nothing wrong with this.
    Everyone has different taste and this new body seems wrong to me and no longer represents my character, I am generally very disappointed over this, I was one of the people looking forward to having a bustier appearance in 2.0.

    Even with a petite body tho, I will never agree that the lower body matches to the upper and I will never be ok with the back protruding outwards more than the rear.
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    Last edited by Vandark; 09-01-2013 at 05:36 PM.

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    Okay guys. I'm going to end this thread once and for all. OP says that these proportions aren't realistic. I find that uncomfortable and honestly a bit insulting because I KNOW they are. I live them every day. So, here's a picture of me with my sexy miqo'te butt.

    (Whatever you think this is before you click it, you will be honestly surprised.)

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    Player Vandark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuko View Post
    Okay guys. I'm going to end this thread once and for all. OP says that these proportions aren't realistic. I find that uncomfortable and honestly a bit insulting because I KNOW they are. I live them every day. So, here's a picture of me with my sexy miqo'te butt.

    (Whatever you think this is before you click it, you will be honestly surprised.)

    The white mage equipment is covering the body and still represents the 1.0 body shape because the characters shapes have changed or been aultered but the equipment remains the same, thats why the gear also shows space where there was per-exsisting body mass.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuko View Post
    By the way... the back thing. That's not unrealistic. That's just bad posture. Your character slays dragons and saves the world. Can you blame her for not being perfect?
    I miss my characters body shape, I'm surprised at these reactions to be honest, I don't think there is anything normal looking about it anymore. It used to look WAYYYYYYY better than it dose now.
    Don't you want your character to look good again?
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    Last edited by Vandark; 09-01-2013 at 05:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuko View Post
    Okay guys. I'm going to end this thread once and for all. OP says that these proportions aren't realistic. I find that uncomfortable and honestly a bit insulting because I KNOW they are. I live them every day. So, here's a picture of me with my sexy miqo'te butt.

    (Whatever you think this is before you click it, you will be honestly surprised.)

    Your spoiler image needs more lines and arrows for more accurate comparison LOL
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    Player Vandark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AarosLunos View Post
    Your spoiler image needs more lines and arrows for more accurate comparison LOL
    Maybe she should take her cloths off and take some side on shots. JK
    Honestly how can you not see the issue here, they shouldn't go one way in 1.0 then completely toss a flip side for the remake when it comes to characters shape.

    They had it right the first time.

    The characters shape has gone from having a large lower body with smaller upper body to a larger upper to tiny lower. It's a flip side.

    Why can't I have both the larger lower and larger upper, there is nothing wrong with wanting that and I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting a patch for it.
    To those who are saying it's not game breaking, I was happy with the game and my character why would I want that to change?
    I want to be happy with my character again so I can enjoy the game the way I hoped I would.

    Would you enjoy a Final Fantasy 7 remake if they made Tifa a blond chick with a flat chest and an ass the size of a house, or would you be totally chill about that and say it's ok your happy with the change...
    Tifa isn't supposed to be that way so why would you be ok with the change?
    I liked Mithra and Miquo'te the way they were why would I want them to change?
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    Last edited by Vandark; 09-01-2013 at 06:48 PM.

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