I can’t ignore this anymore! Something should be done about it!

[Drakan]

Yeah, can't play this game anymore, bodies are horrible. Going to go play my favourite game ever, look at those asses!!!



This is pathethic, we're not here to watch pin-ups, we're here to play an mmorpg. This game has the best graphic an mmo ever had (except it's previous version that was scrapped for various reason, including optimisation)...

[Vandark]

Your spoiler image needs more lines and arrows for more accurate comparison LOL

Maybe she should take her cloths off and take some side on shots. JK
Honestly how can you not see the issue here, they shouldn't go one way in 1.0 then completely toss a flip side for the remake when it comes to characters shape.

They had it right the first time.

The characters shape has gone from having a large lower body with smaller upper body to a larger upper to tiny lower. It's a flip side.

Why can't I have both the larger lower and larger upper, there is nothing wrong with wanting that and I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting a patch for it.
To those who are saying it's not game breaking, I was happy with the game and my character why would I want that to change?
I want to be happy with my character again so I can enjoy the game the way I hoped I would.

Would you enjoy a Final Fantasy 7 remake if they made Tifa a blond chick with a flat chest and an ass the size of a house, or would you be totally chill about that and say it's ok your happy with the change...
Tifa isn't supposed to be that way so why would you be ok with the change?
I liked Mithra and Miquo'te the way they were why would I want them to change?

[Rainbowsaurus]

Maybe she should take her cloths off and take some side on shots. JK

Pathetic. Even if it was a joke, it was bad.

Honestly how can you not see the issue here

There is no issue. This thread is literally you whining about wanting a slightly bigger butt for your character. While at the same time claiming it's not petty or sexual.

they shouldn't go one way in 1.0 then completely toss a flip side for the remake when it comes to characters shape.

It's not even that different! You are really overanalizing and overreacting here.

Why can't I have both a bigger but and larger upper, there is nothing wrong with wanting that and I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting a patch for it.
To those who are saying it's not game breaking, I was happy with the game and my character why would I want that to change?
I want to be happy with my character again so I can enjoy the game again.

Again, there's nothing wrong with having a preference, but claiming the character's bodies are not feminine, or that thy are "hideous" is too much. And, again, if you really can't enjoy the game because you perceive your character to have a smaller butt than before... this really isn't your kind of entertainment. This is the Internet, look around, you'll find something of your liking.

[Aegis]

I can't say I've experienced this. Also, I can't even really tell the difference...

This, me either

[Vandark]

No matter what you say about it these are the facts about this thread.

1: The body has changed in the lower region only the upper remains close to the same as 1.0 despite the ability to increase bust size.
2: Some gear no longer fits the character correctly leaving open space that was other wise filled with belts and lower mass.
3: I am not happy about this change, I am not as happy with my characters appearance anymore. I was looking forward to a busty character but it's lower body just looks miss match.
4: Players deserve options, the but slider was ditched and players such as myself should at least have an optional body shape that suits busty characters.
5: Some players won't play a game if there not happy with there character, I know this for a fact because I am one of these players.
6: If you find this petty simply because you enjoy different elements about the game thats just personal taste, if I find enjoyment in gearing my character based on appearance and thats what I find fun about the game then thats what SE will receive my monthly sub for.

Even if they made two body shape choices to compensate for the players who are now happy with the new 2.0 figure, the bustier body shape and the 2.0 body shape could perhaps both be optional.

Current default body shape would be suitable to those who's personal preference is to be petite.
A more shapely option for those who's preference is a more busty appearance.

7: Making two optional body shapes at the very least could be enough to satisfy everyone.

8: Not everyone is shaped the same just because of their race.

There is clearly a share of players who prefer the new body to the old but what about the players who prefer the old body shape, too bad so sad.. thats not fair honestly.
If they added new body shapes as an optional feature in the character creation I would pay real money to make the change if I had to.

9: Doing something about this is better than doing nothing about it.
10: The dev team dose have the power to do something about it.
11: There are plenty of people who agree with me, the beta phases had thousands of people talking about it.
12: I wish there were more people being constructive about this, this includes the Devs
13: Some old gear is now covered when previously it was not
14: SE could and would likely benefit from this if and when character creation potions become available for perches.
15: Only SE know if this would be possible to implement so putting this topic down based on the theory that it would be too hard to add is a bad counter argument considering this is asking for much less than a slider.
16: Belts no longer appear on some equipment causing even more noticeable gaps in gear. (This just increases the problem)

[Pancea]

3: I am not happy about this change, this was my favorite game; I would like it to remain my favorite game.

This is what seems to be driving this crusade for these changes.

You've started this somewhere during the beta phase and have relentlessly attempted to drive your point home over a period of weeks, if not months. This isn't how things are done in the real world and this isn't how you suggest changes in online communities.

Quite honestly, your relentless assault is causing piles of negative attention towards your issue. The complete inability to accept any valid counter arguments is also astoundingly infuriating.

You need to let this rest for a while, let other issues com to light, let them deal with server load... we're at 12 pages of this for crying out loud. We get it.

So many more actually pressing matters exist.

/rant.

[Rinpoo]

Ugh.. People are still arguing over this. Let's say I don't find it to be a game-breaking issue, there's things I find worse than that. And as much as I understand your concern (and yes the difference is definitely there), I don't think much will be done about it anytime soon, if ever. And well, some people are just too negative and only expect the worst. It's like bashing a wall and eventually it will end up hurting yourself. But you have my absolute sympathy, Vandark. So don't get all too frustrated over it, okies?

[Soki]

hmm I think the underwear is just more form fitting in 1.0.

[Laiferr]

You know, I did actually notice this! It's especially funky looking on the characters with extremely large chests, and then a flat behind. However, the tone of your post is completely over-dramatic and I disagree with 'doesn't look female' - some ladies do have a flat behind, just because it's not the idealized female form doesn't mean it's 'not female'. I do think more customisation options aside from chest size would have been nice, personally I would have liked slightly wider hips and although I chose the smallest chest size for my Highlander it's still not as small as I'd have liked, but at the end of the day it isn't a deal-breaker for me.

[Vandark]

The complete inability to accept any valid counter arguments is also astoundingly infuriating.

They can deal with server load right now and thats what they should be doing.

I accept others have different opinions and I have given my full feedback on my view, a counter argument in a debate will receive my counter argument in return, I don't need to agree with the opposite opinion.
While I feel strongly about this as a real problem in all fairness there hasn't been very constructive feedback from alot of those counter arguments, there needs to be a way to please everyone not just one side.
The way it is right now considering the facts you have to admit it's unacceptable really.

I have said also previously in this forum that I don't care when it happens just so long as there are plans to do something about it, I am completely against them ditching a solution to this.

I disagree with 'doesn't look female' - some ladies do have a flat behind, just because it's not the idealized female form doesn't mean it's 'not female'.

Fair call, and I think everyone with the slim taste is a fair argument but to those who prefer the opposite there is no option for it when previously the default option had much more shape.
IMO when I think of a good looking female body shape I think of curves not flatness, males are very flat yea I may have exaggerated saying they look like men but the rear isn't far from it now...

I think it is your critical artistic eye that is bothering you... because it is a game and of course you want the ratios to be 'perfect' or at least have more options. l

When you said this it dose have truth to it, I do have a very artistic eye and thats exactly why I can't help but notice this, also more options would have been nice indeed.
I feel like this was way too rushed.