I can’t ignore this anymore! Something should be done about it!

[Vandark]

Personally, given the vast improvements made from 1.0 to 2.0 in other areas, I'd say this is an acceptable sacrifice. Especially since it appears most people didn't even notice.

It doesn't need to be a sacrifice tho they can just re-scale the bottom half with a patch, I don't see what the big deal is about fixing it honestly, it wouldn't take too much of there time to patch this.

If they patch this they can have my sub for years to come.

[Duelle]

It doesn't need to be a sacrifice tho they can just re-scale the bottom half with a patch, I don't see what the big deal is about fixing it honestly, it wouldn't take too much of there time to patch this.

I'm more than a month late but thought I should chime in on this one.

At least to my knowledge model animations are not entirely animation schedules (the way they were in FFXI). By this I mean stuff that is technically "loose" such as cloth straps, hair, flaps in clothing and so on had their own animations to simulate physics without actually having any in the game. This is why they had slightly more freedom with body shapes (female elvaan and their bountiful derrieres come to mind...).

ARR's engine seems to be a mix of animation schedules (for movement like walking, running, strafing, casting animations) and physics (for hair and clothing). The main problem is that round surfaces + physics are very system intensive, and can be difficult to get right using minimalistic approaches like decreasing poly count of models. I'd know because I've been tinkering with dat mods (nowhere near to godlike entities like Mooshywooshy) and FFXI models for MMD. Part of getting the physics right involves, as you may have guessed, removing some of the roundness from the backsides of characters when called for.

I'll admit, this is just based on what little experience I have tinkering with models. I don't know the details of ARRs engine nor did I go to school for computer animation. I will say cutting the "fat" is faster and easier to put together, so I can believe Suzuki-san when he says it was done to save themselves time and money.

[Vandark]

I'm more than a month late but thought I should chime in on this one.

Yeah you did quote me on a very old comment lots more has come to our attention since then.

We should probably be talking now about the angle the hip is and how the pelvis is tilted as a possible easier quick fix to minimize the odd appearance of the side view.

I still believe the appearance of the Female Miquo'te can be better achieved threw other terms.

Also @Tupsi perhaps you should listen to LoLo because she is correct on this matter.

[LoLo]

Yeah you did quote me on a very old comment lots more has come to our attention since then.

We should probably be talking now about the angle the hip is and how the pelvis is tilted as a possible easier quick fix to minimize the odd appearance of the side view.

I still believe the appearance of the Female Miquo'te can be better achieved threw other terms.

Also @Tupsi perhaps you should listen to LoLo because she is correct on this matter.

It depends on the person, really.

Ravij: ok all I could go by is your join date. You do realize that they took at least a year to respond to this and it was only after being reposted on JP forums?

[Vandark]

It depends on the person, really.

Ravij: ok all I could go by is your join date. You do realize that they took at least a year to respond to this and it was only after being reposted on JP forums?

True but I guess we just share the same opinions because I see it the way you do.

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Sorry, you seem quite narrow minded Tanaya no offense intended of course but this is not only about the but.

Can you not see the extreme over all appearance this change has caused?

Saying 1.0 model is exactly what was intended as the topic because the 1.0 model over all was much nicer looking. The entire body structure, hip position, pelvis, rear, legs it's all different now.

[ruinedmirage]

It depends on the person, really.

Ravij: ok all I could go by is your join date. You do realize that they took at least a year to respond to this and it was only after being reposted on JP forums?

It's a serious issue when it starts to distract from Japanese perversion ........ I mean immersion. Immersion.