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    Diavolo's Avatar
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    Maximilian Vitalis
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    Faerie
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    Archer Lv 50
    I can't say I've experienced this. Also, I can't even really tell the difference...
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    Player Vandark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diavolo View Post
    I can't say I've experienced this. Also, I can't even really tell the difference...
    I played on my 1.0 character since the alpha test I played during the 1.0 beta phases, I played for the entire time the game was available the entire time playing on this exact character.

    If anyone knows what my characters body shape was it's me and it's a huge difference in game, it's distracting from the game itself because the issue here is so noticeable.

    In game it's almost unbearable at times, it's like having a constant itch you can't scratch or several fly’s in your room making annoying sounds and flying into your face.


    Quote Originally Posted by Smartcat View Post
    We have MUCH more serious problems right now. They need first let me people play that pay attention to silly complains like yours.
    I know that, I'm not stupid, I know we have major issues right now with the servers and everything. I'm not saying this needs to be done urgently just that I want it to be known and it would be nice to at least have it noticed and fixed.
    Everyone wants to create a character they like and enjoy playing the game, I feel like my characters body has been altered in a way I have no control over and I'll always be annoyed about it unless it's fixed.
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    Last edited by Vandark; 08-31-2013 at 10:50 AM.

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    Aegis Elisus
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diavolo View Post
    I can't say I've experienced this. Also, I can't even really tell the difference...
    This, me either
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    Player Vandark's Avatar
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    Van Dark
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    Masamune
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    No matter what you say about it these are the facts about this thread.

    1: The body has changed in the lower region only the upper remains close to the same as 1.0 despite the ability to increase bust size.
    2: Some gear no longer fits the character correctly leaving open space that was other wise filled with belts and lower mass.
    3: I am not happy about this change, I am not as happy with my characters appearance anymore. I was looking forward to a busty character but it's lower body just looks miss match.
    4: Players deserve options, the but slider was ditched and players such as myself should at least have an optional body shape that suits busty characters.
    5: Some players won't play a game if there not happy with there character, I know this for a fact because I am one of these players.
    6: If you find this petty simply because you enjoy different elements about the game thats just personal taste, if I find enjoyment in gearing my character based on appearance and thats what I find fun about the game then thats what SE will receive my monthly sub for.

    Even if they made two body shape choices to compensate for the players who are now happy with the new 2.0 figure, the bustier body shape and the 2.0 body shape could perhaps both be optional.

    Current default body shape would be suitable to those who's personal preference is to be petite.
    A more shapely option for those who's preference is a more busty appearance.

    7: Making two optional body shapes at the very least could be enough to satisfy everyone.

    8: Not everyone is shaped the same just because of their race.

    There is clearly a share of players who prefer the new body to the old but what about the players who prefer the old body shape, too bad so sad.. thats not fair honestly.
    If they added new body shapes as an optional feature in the character creation I would pay real money to make the change if I had to.

    9: Doing something about this is better than doing nothing about it.
    10: The dev team dose have the power to do something about it.
    11: There are plenty of people who agree with me, the beta phases had thousands of people talking about it.
    12: I wish there were more people being constructive about this, this includes the Devs
    13: Some old gear is now covered when previously it was not
    14: SE could and would likely benefit from this if and when character creation potions become available for perches.
    15: Only SE know if this would be possible to implement so putting this topic down based on the theory that it would be too hard to add is a bad counter argument considering this is asking for much less than a slider.
    16: Belts no longer appear on some equipment causing even more noticeable gaps in gear. (This just increases the problem)
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    Last edited by Vandark; 09-09-2013 at 07:09 PM.

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    Panacea Aegle
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    3: I am not happy about this change, this was my favorite game; I would like it to remain my favorite game.
    This is what seems to be driving this crusade for these changes.

    You've started this somewhere during the beta phase and have relentlessly attempted to drive your point home over a period of weeks, if not months. This isn't how things are done in the real world and this isn't how you suggest changes in online communities.

    Quite honestly, your relentless assault is causing piles of negative attention towards your issue. The complete inability to accept any valid counter arguments is also astoundingly infuriating.

    You need to let this rest for a while, let other issues com to light, let them deal with server load... we're at 12 pages of this for crying out loud. We get it.

    So many more actually pressing matters exist.

    /rant.
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    Player Vandark's Avatar
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    Masamune
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Pancea View Post
    The complete inability to accept any valid counter arguments is also astoundingly infuriating.
    They can deal with server load right now and thats what they should be doing.

    I accept others have different opinions and I have given my full feedback on my view, a counter argument in a debate will receive my counter argument in return, I don't need to agree with the opposite opinion.
    While I feel strongly about this as a real problem in all fairness there hasn't been very constructive feedback from alot of those counter arguments, there needs to be a way to please everyone not just one side.
    The way it is right now considering the facts you have to admit it's unacceptable really.

    I have said also previously in this forum that I don't care when it happens just so long as there are plans to do something about it, I am completely against them ditching a solution to this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laiferr View Post
    I disagree with 'doesn't look female' - some ladies do have a flat behind, just because it's not the idealized female form doesn't mean it's 'not female'.
    Fair call, and I think everyone with the slim taste is a fair argument but to those who prefer the opposite there is no option for it when previously the default option had much more shape.
    IMO when I think of a good looking female body shape I think of curves not flatness, males are very flat yea I may have exaggerated saying they look like men but the rear isn't far from it now...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuko View Post
    I think it is your critical artistic eye that is bothering you... because it is a game and of course you want the ratios to be 'perfect' or at least have more options. l
    When you said this it dose have truth to it, I do have a very artistic eye and thats exactly why I can't help but notice this, also more options would have been nice indeed.
    I feel like this was way too rushed.
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    Last edited by Vandark; 09-01-2013 at 06:47 PM.