I can’t ignore this anymore! Something should be done about it!

[Kittra]

Actually, I did. And whoever thinks this isn't about some personal sexual preference is kidding themselves. I play a female Miqo'te and this doesn't bother me in the least. Women (including cat women) come in all sizes, including flat chested/flat bummed.

All I see is a hormone-driven teenage boy throwing a tantrum because his character doesn't have the body of someone from Maxim magazine.

Meanwhile I don't see any complaints about roegadyns having unrealistically bulky bodies. Seriously - do you people not have anything better to do? Or rather - do you think FF devs have nothing better to do than to fix butt models?

Roegadyn bodies are in proportion, thus why no one complains about it (though once again, their butts are slightly off...). I can't even begin to tell you how many times it has been stated: "This is not a Miqo'te issue alone, it is an every character issue."

As for women coming in all shapes and sizes:

1. You cannot make a fat character, no matter how hard you try, so technically women of every shape do not exist in this game.
2. If women come in "all shapes" then it is not completely out of line to ask for something that fixes butts.

If you choose to believe that this thread came about as some personal sexual preference, then that is your problem, don't hoist it on the rest of us.

Finally, we have not asked the Devs to take time out of their busy schedule to change this "immediately." All we have asked is that they fix it eventually.

Unfortunately, if you stop asking for something, it seems the Devs will conclude that you "got over it," so expect to see a looooooot more posts about this, because it's been going on since the first Alpha phase of version 2.0...

*EDIT* Out of General discussion posts for 24 hours...

You seem to be severely focused on the "Miqo'te" aspect of this. ^ I made one particular part bold for a reason...

As for the bit about Dev resources being better spent... Why should the Devs do anything then? It would have been 100 times easier to work with the tools they already had developed and simply fixing the issues 1.0 had (which they mostly did by 1.23), but instead they chose the extremely time consuming route of remaking the entire game from the ground up.

Why is it so hard to accept that they have an extremely flat bottom? Simple: We had the design set in stone within the previous version and we all liked it that way.
Now as to why some people believe that only they can have what they want and the rest of us be damned? You got me there.

[jkwak]

Actually, no. Roegadyn bodies are not in proportion. They arguably set unrealistic expectations for what a muscular male and a female look like - ultimately jeopardizing our children's gender identity and forces them the belief what it means to be a man and a woman.

See how ridiculous that sounds? The point is, it is a game. Just because women come in all shapes and sizes doesn't mean that the game devs have to cater to that. Not all MMO's have the option to change body shape.

Devs' resources are better spent on game content that will come out 'eventually.' What a complete waste of time and resources to cater to some people who aren't happy that their characters aren't as voluptuous.

If Roegadyns are a race of humongous bone structure and muscles, maybe miqote is just a petite, flat bummed race. Why's that so hard to accept? I mean - it's accepted that they're born with tails but it's hard to accept that they have flat buttocks?

[Chione]

I wasn't going to contribute to this thread, though I've lurked and liked here and there. What finally prompted me to post was that moment when I first donned gathering gear on my femRoe. You know. That moment when you notice your character's rear is kinda concave.

All I see is a hormone-driven teenage boy throwing a tantrum because his character doesn't have the body of someone from Maxim magazine.

By the way, I'm a female in my early thirties. Careful with those blanket assumptions.

Fact is, the bottoms just don't look right. And I believe that's all that most people are asking for here. Sure there's a few requests for big badonkadonk, but I think the majority just want their characters to look like their bums belong to them. And not the aforementioned teenage boy.

[Ravij]

man this guy's trying way too hard to satisfy (?) his weird fantasies

i'm pretty sure the 'fantasy' part in 'final fantasy' wasn't referring to your fantasizing of women's bodies.

Congrats.. you just revived a dying topic.. *facepalm* why can't this topic just ... disappear. You people have received your answer from the lead designer himself and no amount of petitioning, rebelling, crying, whining, or anything will change his answer.
OP you have a very hard time letting things go.

[Kittra]

Congrats.. you just revived a dying topic...

Irony, just... irony.


Squeaky wheel and all that jazz, you know? If it works (time and again it has been proven to work) try try... try again, until Game Over.

[Shaddix]

no amount of petitioning, rebelling, crying, whining, or anything will change his answer.

You don't know this

[Eekiki]

Let's be honest though lol - on the english forums people make everything seem like an important issue even when at times it's most certainly not even close to being near important.

True, but how many of those threads have been active for two months with no necroposting and over 800 replies?

There are only two other threads with this kind of activity: The "quality of life" thread and the thread about lag in endgame fights. The quality of life thread is more of a repository of minor improvement ideas. The thread about lag is a call for SE to improve their netcode. This one is dealing with a specific facet of the game's graphic design. For being supposedly unimportant, it sure is getting a lot of attention.

[Tiggy]

True, but how many of those threads have been active for two months with no necroposting and over 800 replies?

There are only two other threads with this kind of activity: The "quality of life" thread and the thread about lag in endgame fights. The quality of life thread is more of a repository of minor improvement ideas. The thread about lag is a call for SE to improve their netcode. This one is dealing with a specific facet of the game's graphic design. For being supposedly unimportant, it sure is getting a lot of attention.

It's a lot of the same people posting over and over again. It isn't a big deal to very many people. Just a very, very vocal minority who doesn't know how to drop it after the devs said it isn't going to happen.

[EzriNuru]

It's a lot of the same people posting over and over again. It isn't a big deal to very many people. Just a very, very vocal minority who doesn't know how to drop it after the devs said it isn't going to happen.

I wouldn't really say it is a minority at this point. Granted plenty of people don't care either way, but lots of people are supportive regardless of that.

[Kittra]

It's a lot of the same people posting over and over again. It isn't a big deal to very many people. Just a very, very vocal minority who doesn't know how to drop it after the devs said it isn't going to happen.

People who post at all on the forums for this game, or pretty much any MMO, are in the vocal "minority."

You'll find it true about every other thread in existence on this forum that it is just the "same people" posting over and over about: random things, rage at lag, things they'd like to see implemented, rage at SE's payment process, rage about the duty finder... just a lot of rage in general, and an odd thread here or there where people post relevant information to help others out (which usually ends in rage because some people can't keep their mouths shut).

It is true that this is not a very pressing matter for most people, and that's probably how it should be, but some people (like me) cannot get over the fact that we had something we were satisfied with before and invariably lost because the Devs wanted to cut corners and felt this is one thing "no one" would miss... well I miss it and apparently, a lot of other people miss it as well.

I have not seen any other people changing their races because they don't like the look of what they had after the transition to 2.0. People have switched because they wanted to try something different or: Because something didn't quite feel right. This issue is not just a Miqo'te issue. It is an every race issue, but it is just more noticeable on the Female Miqo'te models.

Now I can enjoy the game just fine as it is, sans butts and all, but I would enjoy it more if I looked a bit more like I did when I originally made my character in 1.0.