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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandark View Post
    In the beta the majority agreed with me and in only a day I had over 200 likes but then the beta ended and with it the forums.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vandark View Post
    The majority who posted in my thread in the beta did agree with me, there is nothing wrong with what I said.
    I've highlighted the part where you were intellectually dishonest. Majority of people posting in your thread does not equal the majority of people in the beta.

    And now the majority of people visiting this thread have not agreed with you, as evidenced by the particularly anaemic 'like' count.

    You still haven't responded as to whether you recognise this huge fall in support. Or apologised for mistating the like count on the butt slider in the OP. Or failing to mention in the OP SE's response in beta to the issue of backsides.

    Free speech is a beautiful thing. Misrepresenting facts and neglecting pertinent bits of information when setting out your case is just fundamentally dishonest.

    I'm not going to bump this thread anymore.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandark View Post
    I never once said the majority in the beta as a whole you are putting words in my mouth.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vandark View Post
    In the beta the majority agreed with me and in only a day I had over 200 likes but then the beta ended and with it the forums.
    /sigh

    Which part of "In the beta the majority agreed with me" was misrepresented?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vandark View Post
    This means I know Yoshi previously turned down the idea of a But Slider but that has nothing to do with what I'm asking for.
    Really, then why include it (and it's associated 'like' count, which you again misrepresented) in your OP? You thought it was related when it was supporting your argument, but now it's taken as evidence against it you are distancing yourself from it. Again, fundamentally dishonest.


    Also, do you acknowledge the huge drop in support?
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    Last edited by Aegis; 09-02-2013 at 07:35 PM.

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    Player Vandark's Avatar
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    I haven't been dishonest at all and when I said the majority who posted in the my thread during the beta phase agreed with me, this is a fact.

    I never once meant the majority in the beta as a whole you are putting words in my mouth, or took it completely the wrong way, there is no way the majority could have even seen my thread in the entire two days it was up before the forums closed.

    I did not fail to mention SE response completely as I did state that I would like Yoshi to look into this again and consider returning the bottom half of our character models back to the 1.0 shape and size with a patch.

    This means I know Yoshi previously turned down the idea of a But Slider but that has nothing to do with what I'm asking for.

    My idea is something different entirely to the whole but slider thing, I am asking for something to be returned back into the game that previously existed and also to fix missing empty space in equipment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post

    /sigh

    Which part of "In the beta the majority agreed with me" was misrepresented?

    Also, do you acknowledge the huge drop in support?
    Because thats the opinion I got from the thread I made, which the majority who were talking in my beta thread did agree with me.
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    Last edited by Vandark; 09-02-2013 at 09:35 PM.

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    Someone that takes that much time and effort into trying to gain a couple of inches of ass and more skin on a ingame character is bound to have issues bro. Realy... I think you need to get out more.
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    Last edited by RevenSix; 09-02-2013 at 07:38 PM.

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    Player Vandark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RevenSix View Post
    Someone that takes that much time and effort into trying to gain a couple of inches of ass and more skin on a ingame character is bound to have issues bro. Realy... I think you need to get out more.
    Do all the people who wanted a breast slider and breast physics have issues too?

    I don't like how it looks glitchy and off putting with gear and shaped and out of proportion with the upper body.
    There are no need for personal attacks, it's not easy making a topic about this you know, but I do really believe this looks hideous and I can't ignore it while playing.

    I wanted to express my opinion on it, and I have been responding to people in my thread, nothing wrong with that and there isn't anything wrong with me wanting my character to be the way it should be, the way it was in 1.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    Really, then why include it (and it's associated 'like' count, which you again misrepresented) in your OP? You thought it was related when it was supporting your argument, but now it's taken as evidence against it you are distancing yourself from it. Again, fundamentally dishonest.
    It’s included because it goes to show that there are people out there who aren’t happy with the way the lower body looks now, so yes it does have a lot to do with this thread because the base reason is the same but my suggested solution to the problem is different.

    There could be multiple solutions to the problem, SE Said no about a but slider but I believe there are other ways to solve this without the need of a but slider.

    I would rather SE make the small adjustment to the lower body making it represent the exact 1.0 shape again for 2.0, it's like meeting us somewhere half way rather than ditching the problem all together and leaving our characters completely shapeless/flat.
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    Last edited by Vandark; 09-02-2013 at 10:47 PM.

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    I also noticed how bad the texture quality on the gear got you know on top of women in the game being pancake butts. SE just cant seem to do something right without messing something else up.
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    I feel for you Vandark, even the smallest of changes can bother me to no end, but you just gotta let it go and get use to the change.
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    Player Vandark's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryihito View Post
    I feel for you Vandark, even the smallest of changes can bother me to no end, but you just gotta let it go and get use to the change.
    But if enough people agree I'm sure SE would look into it again and do something about it, don't you think?
    I mean damn it's not even level with her back anymore... some gear just looks spaz now because of it...

    Thanks for at least acknowledging how this has effected me, it really dose bother me.
    Getting use to it hasn't been easy when I can't even ware the gear I like anymore.
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    Last edited by Vandark; 09-02-2013 at 09:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandark View Post
    But if enough people agree I'm sure SE would look into it again and do something about it, don't you think?
    I mean damn it's not even level with her back anymore... some gear just looks spaz now because of it...

    Thanks for at least acknowledging how this has effected me, it really dose bother me.
    Getting use to it hasn't been easy when I can't even ware the gear I like anymore.
    True, I have noticed some gear does look a bit odd. Be nice if SE made a comment about this though.

    And you're welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryihito View Post
    True, I have noticed some gear does look a bit odd. Be nice if SE made a comment about this though.

    And you're welcome.
    They did, OP neglected to mention it. They said characters' backsides were working as intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    They did, OP neglected to mention it. They said characters' backsides were working as intended.
    I know that, that was for the buttocks slider. I meant more like why they made minor changes to the body and posterior, unless I missed that.

    It doesn't really bother me, just would be nice for Vandark and whoever else.
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