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    i am finished with arguing over the internet of how ffxi did it all right and how ffxiv did it all wrong. my last gash would be simple, to request for at least one server that has ffxi elements.
    This has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

    I guess hardcore players have to quit playing MMO or become casual players that or wait too players change view which wont happen for the next 30+years lol i guess i start playing game again when am 50. If ffxiv all going to be is 100% casual.
    No all players need to just have some damn patience and let them fix the damn game.
    If you want to play FFXI then go play XI it's that simple. easy
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    Last edited by Chronic; 04-17-2011 at 02:37 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kafeen View Post
    I think its a good idea, they should have their own server. Their own forum too so we don't have to listen to whiny complaints all the time. Alternatively, if you're not happy with the direction the game is taking, find something else to play.
    to tell you the true the only Whiny is from you causal players not wanting to meet a middle ground with us. You all being like lil kids wanting everything your way just because you the main player base. same goes with hardcore players.

    Stop being rude no one is whiny if anything everyone on here been b?????? sense release of this forums everything on this is whiny. Even the JP are whiny about casual and having there own world and this game is to easy and there noting much to it. Even The DU are i read few post from others it may not be as much as the NA but it's pretty much everywhere.

    So enough with the b???? it make no sense fighting over a matter that yoshi said he going to do 4man= causal 8 main = hardcore he even adding raids and dungeons for both so matter what hardcore and casual so shut up about this problem we getting what we ask one way or other for both causal and hardcore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argh View Post
    I said not to post if you disagree. What is wrong with you all? Its not like it will affect any of you or that it slows down development.
    Unfortunately for you, you can't dictate who posts in a thread or not. Sorry about that. People in a forum will disagree with what you say, and they have full rights to express it, no matter how much you dislike it or how much you're trying to artificially convince the devs that everyone likes your idea (not that they'd fall for it, considering that it's entirely unrealistic to even consider it).

    Its just a few simple changes. Will probably take a programmer one day to code.
    Also, your oversimplified idea of game development doesn't help. When you create a different ruleset you need different code, no matter how simple the change, you still change the conditions in which the rules need to operate, and this means that every patch needs to be adapted to the new ruleset and need to be TESTED in it. Which will undoubtly slow down development and patching for everyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    to tell you the true the only Whiny is from you causal players not wanting to meet a middle ground with us. You all being like lil kids wanting everything your way just because you the main player base. same goes with hardcore players.
    Your idea of "middle ground" is removing or drastically reducing accessibility of content to people that don't belong to your niche. That's not real middle ground. It's having a developer develop content only for the sake of a small niche.
    Developing content accessible to everyone is the middle ground (and the only option considering the state of the game content-wise). Unfortunately some can't seem to be able to adapt to it.
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    You whiners are forgeting that this is on another server that does not affect your game at all.
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    How cute would that be?

    Hardcore players would have to work exponentially harder to get the same rewards casual players would already have on all the "non-hardcore" servers...

    SE is better off just working on releasing "real" endgame content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argh View Post
    I said not to post if you disagree. What is wrong with you all? Its not like it will affect any of you or that it slows down development. Its just a few simple changes. Will probably take a programmer one day to code.
    This is General Discussion, we're going to discuss things. It would most certainly have an effect on development as they have to balance all content for both servers, thus doubling the work load. You apparently have absolutely no idea how game development works and how much time even the small things take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narim View Post
    How cute would that be?

    Hardcore players would have to work exponentially harder to get the same rewards casual players would already have on all the "non-hardcore" servers...

    SE is better off just working on releasing "real" endgame content.
    Server transfers will not be allowed. not all players care who has what on other world servers.
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    BWAHAHAHAHA

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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Unfortunately for you, you can't dictate who posts in a thread or not. Sorry about that. People in a forum will disagree with what you say, and they have full rights to express it, no matter how much you dislike it or how much you're trying to artificially convince the devs that everyone likes your idea (not that they'd fall for it, considering that it's entirely unrealistic to even consider it).



    Also, your oversimplified idea of game development doesn't help. When you create a different ruleset you need different code, no matter how simple the change, you still change the conditions in which the rules need to operate, and this means that every patch needs to be adapted to the new ruleset and need to be TESTED in it. Which will undoubtly slow down development and patching for everyone.



    Your idea of "middle ground" is removing or drastically reducing accessibility of content to people that don't belong to your niche. That's not real middle ground. It's having a developer develop content only for the sake of a small niche.
    Developing content accessible to everyone is the middle ground (and the only option considering the state of the game content-wise). Unfortunately some can't seem to be able to adapt to it.
    where did you get that from i don't think it's that hard to add causal and hardcore stuff it's not about how much time it take to do something it how hard it is to do within a time range. 30min event could be fun and somewhat hard that both causal and hardcore can enjoy.

    So if you saying they should only make stuff for casual just because there more players for it that very sad and rude. Yoshi oh ready said he be making two system 4man and 8man causal and hardcore he even said they going to add quests that would be chain quest and would take some time to do. So at the end they be something for both casual and hardcore.I'll am saying let's meet somewhere in the middle or this just be a endless dumb war.

    Top of that if its so so casual even the casual players would end up quiting this game. WoW raids take at least 3-6hours to do even the small dungeons take about 30+mins it's up to which would you do there a few long onces and this is a game which is sold as casual.

    by all means if i got what you said wrong let me know but as things are yoshi answer my question about the way this game is going. Now it's time to see if he really does it.
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    It tell you right there that most casual only care about themself unlike most of the hardcore who thinks both ways.
    The best Joke Ive ever heard in this Forum.
    Most of the things here posted are just "Hardcores" who want the timesinks, not because they want a good game its most likely because they want to satisfy themeselves with the title of being "Hardcore".
    Best example is the cry for a Hardcore Server.

    I want to enjoy this game, everyone has the right to.
    But if they decide to take another route, you cant blame the casuals because they have fun and you not.

    I hope they add a Hardcore Server, or at least give it a shot.
    Since other MMO have PVP Servers, why not a Hardcore Server.
    If they can satisfy themselves and leave everyone alone who enjoy the Game its just the best for "both".
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