How valuable is the hardcore opinion?

[Neptune]

It's interesting the way schools of thought change. We have the same couple hundred MMO addicts here on the boards, and we once heard cries of "make FFXIV just like FFXI!" We successfully vanquished that school of thought but now the wounded animal has just changed from crying "FFXI" to "hardcore". Now Final Fantasy XIV isn't "hardcore" enough all of a sudden. ..Isn't it strange that no one said this in the beginning? It's just the desperate adaptive strategy of a disappointed FFXI veteran clinging to whatever form of life it can.

So, as I asked in my other thread directed at FFXI veterans..

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/3090-The-absent-players

..how valuable is your "hardcore" opinion?

Let's see, there are about 30,000 FFXIV players. This is "hardcore" players plus the rest of us. And then... there are the OTHER FFXIV players.. The ones that don't view topics on the forums and don't answer player's polls... SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND other, fellow, FFXIV players, with a FFXIV DVD collecting dust somewhere in their house.

If Square Enix suddenly implemented all of your hardcore suggestions to appease you, they would bring in less than 10% of what it costs to run this game. Your demands are only good enough to run FFXIV in to the ground.

It's responding to the needs of millions of other people.. starting with 600,000 fellow FFXIV players.. that FFXIV is going to have a future. So when questioning the motivation of any forthcoming patch.. keep in mind who's bought the majority of FFXIV copies.. 600,000 people taking a silent stand. The day I see a "hardcore" forum thread with 600,000 views will be the day I give credence to the demands in that thread.

FFXIV is going to reward real hardcore players just as every MMO in existence does. But let's distinguish between real hardcore players and a bunch of FFXI veterans that suddenly changed their label so they could get what they want at the expense of at least 600,000 people.

[TheVedis]

Instead of going into some long essay on it

answer it with something simple


"Its just as valuable as any other persons opinion"

[Neptune]

Instead of going into some long essay on it

answer it with something simple


"Its just as valuable as any other persons opinion"

What, to God? Maybe, but that's not the question I'm asking. The question is, "How valuable is the hardcore opinion to making FFXIV a successful game?"

[TheVedis]

What, to God? Maybe, but that's not the question I'm asking. The question is, "How valuable is the hardcore opinion to making FFXIV a successful game?"

and ill reply with the same answer
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you can not ignore anyones opinion as everyone is a potential customer when it goes p2p

there is no right and wrong, except where you segregate players


and all this hardcore vs casual BS needs to stop you people are making too many threads on it

[Neptune]

and ill reply with the same answer
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you can not ignore anyones opinion as everyone is a potential customer when it goes p2p

there is no right and wrong, except where you segregate players


and all this hardcore vs casual BS needs to stop you people are making too many threads on it

I don't think their opinion should be ignored either.. the question is should some of the demands be made considering we want to play a successful game. Anyway I'm disappointed you are in here TheVedis. Your head is screwed on straight. It's the sick that need a doctor.. not the well!

[Flower]

"Its just as valuable as any other persons opinion"

I agree 100% with you, I am tired of these flame baited useless topics that have no point but to bash other people. Seriously grow up OP. This is not WoW if you want drama and useless childish chatter this is not the game for that go find some other forums to spam up.

[Cairdeas]

It has been appraised an found flawed and valueless.

[Mack]

It has been appraised an found flawed and valueless.

Meh, considering FFXI is as hardcore as they come in every aspect of the game and considering that about 500K FFXI players could potentially make the switch to FFXIV or play it alongside FFXI I'd say its a little more valuable than vlaueless and a little less flawed than your opinion. I'd say both hardcore and casual opinions are necessary to make this game a success but no one is happy no matter what you give them...doesn't matter, this game is shaping up nicely now and it'll appease to a large portion of the fanbase by the end and hopefully everyone will have something to do.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Meh, considering FFXI is as hardcore as they come in every aspect of the game and considering that about 500K FFXI players could potentially make the switch to FFXIV or play it alongside FFXI I'd say its a little more valuable than vlaueless and a little less flawed than your opinion. I'd say both hardcore and casual opinions are necessary to make this game a success but no one is happy no matter what you give them...doesn't matter, this game is shaping up nicely now and it'll appease to a large portion of the fanbase by the end and hopefully everyone will have something to do.

ffxi no longer has a 500K playerbase. the game is going in it second server merge.

Guys please stop flashing the ffxi has a 500K playerbase, that is no longer the case anymore and not even all of those ppl were / are hardcore.
pheonix, asura, lakshmi, diablos are looking at around 700-1700 ish playerbase in the course of a checking 20 hours for 7 days.
I wish i was using random numbers.

[Mack]

ffxi no longer has a 500K playerbase. the game is going in it second server merge.

Guys please stop flashing the ffxi has a 500K playerbase, that is no longer the case anymore and not even all of those ppl were / are hardcore.
pheonix, asura, lakshmi, diablos are looking at around 700-1700 ish playerbase in the course of a checking 20 hours for 7 days.
I wish i was using random numbers.

Not my point - my point being at one point FFXI had 500K players, this means that's a potential number that might play FFXIV.