How to generate more hate than a healer?

[Jahaudant]

If you're dual tanking and your support tank is hurting, provoke and cover!

Provoke places you at the top of the hate list, covering after that would be pretty pointless.

If flash is resisted I guarantee it's less enmity.

I highly doubt this is the case, it makes no sense and wasn't the case in XI either. I will test it tonight though, unless you aren't just guessing and actually have evidence?

That GCD of a resisted flash is better used on a shield swipe or RoH.
Generating more hate than a healer is not the question
Also, it could be your shield.

OP is describing problems in keeping hate on multiple mobs at the same time... none of this advise makes sense.

[Ariyn]

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The guy is either a troll or flat out doesn't know what he is doing. See http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...us-Stats/page6 where he says cure is worth more emnity then flash. No idea why you keep posting this stuff Rajah.

Shield Swipe gives you emnity based on the dmg you do (x2 for shield oath) that still does not equal to a single flash (even with the blind resisted since there is no evidence that a resisted blind provides less emnity) and no where even close to Savage Blade or Rage of Halone. The only good thing about shield swipe is that 1.) it doesn't break your combo and 2.) if you haven't used it more then 3 times it can be used as an interrupt (provided that the mob is not immune to the pacification effect).

@Op - keeping hate on multiple mobs basically comes down to learning when and how often to flash as well as learning to switch targets constantly using single target skills on each. Get into the habit of watching the emnity bars on the party screen every time you switch. It will show you were to focus more of your attention. General opening for me pull with shield lob, flash once all mobs are there, fast blade - savage blade - rage of halone on 1st target, flash, fast blade savage blade on 2nd target, rage of halone on 3rd target. After that it's just watching bars and adjusting as needed.

[Rajah]

Halone this Halone that

Let's see what you do when you need shield oath to even keep hate.

[Themis]

The fact that in your OP, the only thing you did to gain threat on the other enemies is use flash shows that you are not suited to be a tank. Just play lancer or something like 100,000 other players honestly.

Take no notice of this. Some people prefer to throw this kind of remark around rather than offer any kind of constructive feedback.

The fact that you come here to ask for assistance and are willing to grow and learn, is exactly why you are suited to be a tank. It's those that think their way is the only way that aren't suited to it (and the same goes for any class).

Halone this Halone that

Let's see what you do when you need shield oath to even keep hate.

When you do get Shield Oath, it's an incredibly powerful tool and you'd be stupid not to use it. Prior to that, Gladiator is probably a better choice over Paladin because you have twice as many cross class skills to draw from, many of which can increase damage output (which results in better enmity gain from damage). Interestingly enough, though, the OP isn't asking for information about keeping enmity post 40 PLD.

Of course, this isn't an unexpected statement from someone such as yourself.