SMN - knowing the class (part 1)

[Rover1983]

my shadow flare ticks for much more, maybe you have gear issues?

actually now that I checked it out again, its ticking for upper 40s but still. If you can honestly say a lvl 50 skill ticking for 40-50s with a mix of amd keep gear and blues, than your extremely ignorant. The skill flatout sucks and needs more to it.

[Kevee]

So I just found a big bug.



Shadow Flare can't crit.

Actually, since people are reporting that it does about as much as Bio 1 a tick, it seems like its criting every tick.

Its listed potency is 25, and 150% of 25 is 37.5, which is very close to Bio 1.

Yeah, this is right. I forgot it was lower potency when I was testing for crits.

Every tick is just a little weaker than Bio I. Shadow Flare 60-70, Bio I 70-80.

[Malix]

actually now that I checked it out again, its ticking for upper 40s but still. If you can honestly say a lvl 50 skill ticking for 40-50s with a mix of amd keep gear and blues, than your extremely ignorant. The skill flatout sucks and needs more to it.

40-50 constant damage for a wide aoe spell of its type is amazing, you are just looking for something OP, you are the ignorant one.

[Rover1983]

40-50 constant damage for a wide aoe spell of its type is amazing, you are just looking
for something OP, you are the ignorant one.

Lol please tell me your kidding? Compare the dmg with other dps aoes and you'll see how bad the dmg is on shadow flare. I know dmg isn't going to be the same across the board for the dps classes but if you take the dmg of the aoes the other dps classes get and it blows shadow flare out of the water. Theres absolutely zero comparison.

Put it this way, my lvl 19 thaumaturge aoe does twice the dmg shadow flare does. My 18 archers aoe does more dmg. There's no way lvl 18 and 19 toons should be out dmging a lvl 50 spell. I don't see the logic in that.

[Kevee]

Lol please tell me your kidding? Compare the dmg with other dps aoes and you'll see how bad the dmg is on shadow flare. I know dmg isn't going to be the same across the board for the dps classes but if you take the dmg of the aoes the other dps classes get and it blows shadow flare out of the water. Theres absolutely zero comparison.

Put it this way, my lvl 19 thaumaturge aoe does twice the dmg shadow flare does. My 18 archers aoe does more dmg. There's no way lvl 18 and 19 toons should be out dmging a lvl 50 spell. I don't see the logic in that.

Uh, first. My shadow Flare ticks for 60-70.

Second, it has 10 ticks.

That's 600-700 damage.

It's DAMAGE OVER TIME in addition to everything else we can do.

[Rover1983]

Uh, first. My shadow Flare ticks for 60-70.

Second, it has 10 ticks.

That's 600-700 damage.

It's DAMAGE OVER TIME in addition to everything else we can do.

Thats fine an dandy but when the other classes can throw out 1 or 2 aoes and out dmg it twice over, I don't see how its good. I get were a dot class, but I still think its far too behind others. The class was thrown in in the last phase of beta. I don't see how the class is up to date with everything

[Kevee]

Thats fine an dandy but when the other classes can throw out 1 or 2 aoes and out dmg it twice over, I don't see how its good. I get were a dot class, but I still think its far too behind others. The class was thrown in in the last phase of beta. I don't see how the class is up to date with everything

..Because we do more than just that.

They can't throw out 1 AoE and do more damage.

[Rover1983]

..Because we do more than just that.

They can't throw out 1 AoE and do more damage.

The range on bane is too small to be all that useful because the mobs basically have to be on top of each other. Miasma is terrible. We have other weapons but our main aoe is lackluster. We can all agree to disagree, Thats fine. Its all matter of opinion. I just feel that as a lvl 50 aoe spell, it SHOULD do more dmg then it currently is if were all worried about being "balanced" with other dps aoes.

[Sacerdos]

So I just found a big bug.

Shadow Flare can't crit.

Actually, since people are reporting that it does about as much as Bio 1 a tick, it seems like its criting every tick.

Its listed potency is 25, and 150% of 25 is 37.5, which is very close to Bio 1.

[XenabelleS]

I have a question.

How do people keep Ifrit egi alive in heavy aoe fights like the ones in Stone Vigil and Garuda? I find on every attempt I've done, my egi dies partway through the fight.

Now I know it's my responsibility to monitor its health but between focusing on my rotation and avoiding the aoe's myself, I often only notice when it is nearly dead and have not enough time to get in range/react.

How are folks managing this as they are a chunk of our damage?