SMN - knowing the class (part 1)

[Kevee]

bio 2 takes 30 seconds and miasma 24 seconds to deliver that potency vs. windbites and venomous bites 18 seconds. really, how can math be that hard for so many?

Really, how can math be that hard? Bio II and Miasma will do more damage/GCD but less DPS/GCD.

because fail pugs are fail, and because i'd rather throw out a sustain than try to resummon my pet mid battle. i have not gotten around to levelling thm up to quick cast yet due to the damned login issues

I agree, but proper positioning greatly limits when, or if, you need to heal your pet.


I hit my daily limit, so:

dmg per gcd has little meaning when a 30 second dot does ultimately less damage than an 18 second dot, especially when you have to hard-cast that 30 and 24 second dot while the two 18 second dots are done entirely on the move.

It doesn't do less damage.

It has a higher potency. It does more damage.

It does less DPS.

Something else to note:

Just found a bug during AV, or what I hope is a bug. When you Contagion your current target and Bane to spread the higher DoT timers around, if the 15% chance to reset the DoT timer procs, then it will reset to the lower timer.

this is where simple math is failing you. it does less damage.

bio 2 does 350 potency in 30 seconds. windbite does 320 in 18 seconds.

in 30 seconds, windbite does 533 potency

in 30 seconds, misma does 387 potency

in 30 seconds, venomous bite does 516 potency.

summoner dots are less damage over time and less dps over time. which is a dumb thing to say - given the same amount of time, the ability with the higher dps does the most damage. basic, basic math.

math. it's what's for dinner.

1 GCD: Bio II - 350 Potency
1 GCD: Windbite - 320 Potency

For 1 GCD you're doing more damage and less DPS. If you want to add in a second GCD worth of skills(or 12s worth of Ruin) then add it in.

They are more damage/GCD and less DPS/GCD. This is important because we don't need to apply them as much, which lowers your DPS every time you need to re-apply the DoT.

And why this is important? This means every 18s we have an "extra" GCD, as compared to BRD, where we're not applying a DoT. The DoT is still functioning, and it lets us do other things, potentially the superior thunder/bio/miasma II(aoe), or even Ruin II + off GCD skill instead.


Again, I'm NOT saying SMN is stronger than BRD. It's not, but you're not getting why Bio II is more damage than Windbite. For a single GCD, it does more damage and less DPS. And that's important, because of the things I said above.

Edit: And not to mention RS benefits longer DoTs more, of which we can extend our DoT timers beyond the base.