SMN - knowing the class (part 1)

[Kevee]

Enkindle on Ifrit is better than Garuda, and for the purposes of DPS'ing a boss Ifrit is superior. The DoT extension is only nice when you have to deal with adds and don't want the dot's to fall off while you deal with them.

Ifrit also has a stun for an interrupt in ase you don't have a paladin in the group.

Garuda is better ST over the course of a fight. Contagion is a 725 potency "attack" CD every minute, not including when mixed in with RS. That more than makes up for the difference in auto-attack damage skills.

Optimally, you want to Enkindle+Ifrit and then Swiftcast Garuda-Egi.

Note: This isn't always viable due to invulnerability phases.

Btw, the DoT extension only works on your current target. You can bane afterwards, but if the 15% chance hits to reset DoT timer..It will reset to the lower timer.

[Greenbean]

What are the best pets to use? I only just got my ifrit egi before the 1017 issue hit me. So how do the other pets stack up? Also is there a higher class of craby? I've seem blue and topaz are they the only ones?

[nimuniverse]

Another thing about threat meter, I have been in instances where tank died (wrong position) and the second person boss go to or adds go to is me. Yet I didn't have heal or sustain. Maybe other dps I was in party with sucked. But I am under assumption that boss goes to whoever did the most damage after tank's agro. Also there have been times healer or other dps died and I have to raise and heal in absence of healer.
It's all about someone knowing how to play. I come from old school mmo (where you died you lose all) so I try my best to play the class well. I don't play like wanna be BLM who spam nothing but ruin and complain cause it doesn't do dmg like BLM.
To the person who mention about fates, I get gold stars even with 20-30 people per fates. On NM fates, I sometimes even pull agro, the ones that give 20k+ exp for doing in Coerthas.

[Maku]

FATEs: The key is immediate targeting of fresh mobs. I get full marks all the time. Like the above poster on NM fights I will sometimes even pull hate.

In general: Not using your DoTs is a BAD idea. Had a SMN in a group with me last night while I was playin on SCH and the one DPS commented on how he was doing a good job keepin the DoTs up only to be told (by the SMN mind you) that those were my DoTs cause he doesn't waste MP on useless spells. *brick wall* Keeping up your DoTs and I mean all of them, especially on boss fights, is a HUGE boost in damage for the team. Also, when with pug groups I have actually kited and finished off several dungeon bosses because well pugs will be pugs. SMN may not have "BAM EPEEN NUMBERS LOOK AT THAT 10K FIRE" (over exaggeration but still), but we have our place and it is a kitten good one, ESPECIALLY with pug groups that are not always the best.

[Crescent_Dusk]

For fates just run into where mobs spawn then spam miasma, tag a mob with bio and bane it. You'll get credit for several of them. Or, get in a FATE group and don't worry about it.

[Marcusow86]

Here is my opinion below:-

1. when a mage/whm sleeps a target, SMN can't bane them else it would break their sleep. If SMN bane, it will most likely steal aggro or tank get hits a lot more thus adding strain to the healer.

*Bane AoE radius is a joke. Remember when i bane the enemy in front of the tank and those mobs hitting slightly behind the tank are not getting the Dots spread

2. In a single target situation (Ifrit, Titan, boss) no bane what-so-ever is involved, and thus SMN's dps is significantly lower than the rest.

*The bright side of SMN is even when you are on the run, DoTs is still hurting the boss.

3. In fight that needs to down target fast or else it is wipe (1st and last boss of Sunken temple), SMN's dot just isn't ticking fast enough.

[Crescent_Dusk]

Here is my opinion below:-

1. when a mage/whm sleeps a target, SMN can't bane them else it would break their sleep. If SMN bane, it will most likely steal aggro or tank get hits a lot more thus adding strain to the healer.

*Bane AoE radius is a joke. Remember when i bane the enemy in front of the tank and those mobs hitting slightly behind the tank are not getting the Dots spread

2. In a single target situation (Ifrit, Titan, boss) no bane what-so-ever is involved, and thus SMN's dps is significantly lower than the rest.

*The bright side of SMN is even when you are on the run, DoTs is still hurting the boss.

3. In fight that needs to down target fast or else it is wipe (1st and last boss of Sunken temple), SMN's dot just isn't ticking fast enough.

The movement is a non-issue as BLM have swiftcast and scathe.

[Maku]

Here is my opinion below:-

1. when a mage/whm sleeps a target, SMN can't bane them else it would break their sleep. If SMN bane, it will most likely steal aggro or tank get hits a lot more thus adding strain to the healer.

*Bane AoE radius is a joke. Remember when i bane the enemy in front of the tank and those mobs hitting slightly behind the tank are not getting the Dots spread

2. In a single target situation (Ifrit, Titan, boss) no bane what-so-ever is involved, and thus SMN's dps is significantly lower than the rest.

*The bright side of SMN is even when you are on the run, DoTs is still hurting the boss.

3. In fight that needs to down target fast or else it is wipe (1st and last boss of Sunken temple), SMN's dot just isn't ticking fast enough.

Bane does not break sleep. One of my favorite things about it is that it doesn't break it. You are right that I often steal agro though but it does NOT break sleep. Several places have been saying that it does but I simply don't see it waking up the mobs when I use it. Does it actually wake them up and just is glitched to still show them asleep?

[Marcusow86]

Bane does not break sleep. One of my favorite things about it is that it doesn't break it. You are right that I often steal agro though but it does NOT break sleep. Several places have been saying that it does but I simply don't see it waking up the mobs when I use it. Does it actually wake them up and just is glitched to still show them asleep?

am not sure about this, i thought application of DoTs will break sleep and that includes bane. But i can confirm that after DoTs and the mob get sleep, it does not break the sleep.

[Warlyx]

1 question guys , im the only that after using enkindle DONT NOTICE ANYTHING? i was expecting a huge explosion of earth , wind or fire in the enemy (flare any1?) , but .....after using it for a while.....the garuda enkindle isnt even noticiable , i wonder if even works sometimes ._.

the class is full of dissapointments