(Un)Official Arcanist/Summmoner Feedback Thread

[Kevee]

Summoner is the most nerfed job this patch and they don't fix any of the problems to offset this.

I'd be fine with a few nerfs to potency, but the way they did this is unacceptable, especially with not fixing any of our multiple problems.

They should've changed BLM AF2 boots, lowered/fixed SF, and then slightly lower a few skills rather than making us cast RUIN some more.

[Kikosho]

Not to mention the changes to Pet AI with concern to Obey since it seems like Obey is essentially Steady. So either we micro manage all of Garuda's actions or set her to Sic so she'll do less DPS.

[Shamirah]

That is the most stupid patch ever. Oh, we'll take away a dot on a DOTbased CLASS. Buuuut ! We'll give them an aoe ! ... after nerfing it of course.

Oh the BLM's boots has the same stats as the allagan one ? Let's change the allagan boots' stat to screw the SMN.

I'm really mad. I used my one-time only mythological item exchange to trade my af boots with the helm... ('cause I won the allagan boots) but with this RETARDED change... I'm screwed now. THANK YOU SQUARE ENIX.

[T0rin]

I can't believe they nerfed Obey. So either we accept Garuda doing Contagion on mobs with no DoTs, or we have to micro-manage every single ability use every GCD or she will sit there and do nothing.

[Ragnirok]

I can't believe they nerfed Obey. So either we accept Garuda doing Contagion on mobs with no DoTs, or we have to micro-manage every single ability use every GCD or she will sit there and do nothing.

I really hope its something that is lost in translation or some sort of typo. otherwise this patch is a giant joke for summoners.

[Sanctus]

I can't believe they nerfed Obey. So either we accept Garuda doing Contagion on mobs with no DoTs, or we have to micro-manage every single ability use every GCD or she will sit there and do nothing.

I highly doubt that is what its actually going to be, It sounded like you can put the pet on obey + guard or obey + steady, where obey + guard is the same as it is now, and obey + steady is you even control the wind blades etc

[Edok]

why we are the class that suck in everything. Yes we can do more dmg than BLM on single target but it cost us more mana and land out of mana. Moreover, our aoe is not good compare to blm, and they plan to make the area for bane larger(i was happy when i read this) but only spread to three targets. YOu don't need to make the area for bane to get larger for three targets. For the allagan boots, this change is really not fair. Thunder is a good skill being replace by blizzard 2, which is not a good aoe skill. If we SMN us blizzard2, we will ran out of mana because we don't have the blm buff. I wonder any of us complains would get to their ear, and i think that they would not change anything even though we complain because they already public the change. Therefore, we just have to play the mistress class for a long time till the next patch come when no raid want SMN in anymore.

[Shamirah]

why we are the class that suck in everything. Yes we can do more dmg than BLM on single target but it cost us more mana and land out of mana. Moreover, our aoe is not good compare to blm, and they plan to make the area for bane larger(i was happy when i read this) but only spread to three targets. YOu don't need to make the area for bane to get larger for three targets. For the allagan boots, this change is really not fair. Thunder is a good skill being replace by blizzard 2, which is not a good aoe skill. If we SMN us blizzard2, we will ran out of mana because we don't have the blm buff. I wonder any of us complains would get to their ear, and i think that they would not change anything even though we complain because they already public the change. Therefore, we just have to play the mistress class for a long time till the next patch come when no raid want SMN in anymore.

Well they said that the patch notes were subject to changes

[Sylari]

Losing Thunder is a bitch. really hope they give us Aero (like the spell claims it should) otherwise... Meh.

Casting Ruin is not fun and not what I want to be spending more time doing.

I can't believe they nerfed Obey. So either we accept Garuda doing Contagion on mobs with no DoTs, or we have to micro-manage every single ability use every GCD or she will sit there and do nothing.

Given that it specifically mentions that Eos won't cast Whispering Dawn while on Obey anymore (which is redundant with the previous statement) makes me think that that's an error or mistranslation of some sort.

[pandabearcat]

Yea, uh, I just finished reading the patch notes.

On one hand: We no longer have much (if any) mana issues.

On the other hand, wow caster cross class abilities blow.

I noticed that surecast is still a POS and they're likely not making it any better.

But thats not even the most ridiculous thing.

The most ridiculous thing is MONK BUFFS WTF.

Also uh, did you notice that "any direct damage interrupts casting".

WHat...the...hell?

Have they never watched uh, any game, where there are casters?

Do they know that casters will instantly lose any engagement?

Do casters have any mobility options? Do they have any instacast snares?

NOPE!

I can't...I can't imagine what this will bring for PVP.

EDIT2:

also this: When multiple characters are playing the same class/job in a party, the gauge for level 2 and level 3 limit breaks will now fill more slowly than before.

why...?