(Un)Official Arcanist/Summmoner Feedback Thread

[abesut]

It feels like they copypasted warlock/necromancer from GW/WoW and just slapped the summoner name on it and said: there ya go!

[Korvaene]

These pictures say it all. First is the Ifrit summon from FFXI, a game with a much older graphics engine. Second is Ifrit from FFXIV. Wonder what their excuse is for the poor artwork?




Edit: Forgot to mention, since you can't tell by the pictures, but the first Ifrit is larger than the player character. The second Ifrit is a third of the size of the player character.

[Miew]

The thing is they aren't going to allow players to summon primals as that would break the story lore and all that stuff.
Endgame wise the SMN can be great against raid bosses if the user knows how to do their DoT right the problem is most don't.

The only boost I think SMN should get is a better stronger ruin since its basically their bread and butter after DoTs

[shinros]

The thing is they aren't going to allow players to summon primals as that would break the story lore and all that stuff.
Endgame wise the SMN can be great against raid bosses if the user knows how to do their DoT right the problem is most don't.

The only boost I think SMN should get is a better stronger ruin since its basically their bread and butter after DoTs

No one is asking for summoning huge primals they are asking for better designed summons. Titan looks like a bunch of yellow rocks and garuda does not look like garuda and lets not forget they are kinda small.

[Spellbinder]

The thing is they aren't going to allow players to summon primals as that would break the story lore and all that stuff.

As shinros said, most people aren't asking for huge primals that block the screen. The images in my original post are an example of what players during the beta test felt would be a good compromise.

[shinros]

Square could make the egi's interact with the spells more for example ifrit activates a buff where he does extra burn DOT on the target. Like how garuda can extend the timer on your DOTS stuff like that will make the class more interesting IMO.

[Warlyx]

if BLM and SMN (or BRD for that matter) are on par DPS wise , why bring a smn that has no burst/aoe over a BLM/BRD?

the only thing that SMN has over BLM is rez on battle.

howwever my main problem isnt the DPS potential (that is there) is how SMN is played , i was expecting doing "summoner" things....

if SE removed pets and added a permanent dot (until mob death) 80 dps , that every1 min added 15s to other dots , we will be played the same way that we play now in partys.


something is WRONG when if your pet gets killed , you as SUMMONER as still working at 90% >.>

pets are just a glorified dot with HP bar ....and for 1 not even a cool/menancing pet

[abesut]

The thing is they aren't going to allow players to summon primals as that would break the story lore and all that stuff.
Endgame wise the SMN can be great against raid bosses if the user knows how to do their DoT right the problem is most don't.

The only boost I think SMN should get is a better stronger ruin since its basically their bread and butter after DoTs

I see you never played SMN in FFXI. Here is a spoiler: You only summoned just a fragtment (aka essence) of the real primal in FFXI, but still they made some awesome models. In FF14 we got models that looks like it was made by an intern.
And No, I don't want huge *** pets, but something at or just slighter bigger than a player would be great, it would still just be tiny compared to the primals.

[Blackcanary]

Bumping this i agree with nearly everything here. I said this in another post you guys should use the leave a suggestion in the game to send to the dev team. Go to the support desk & uses leave a suggestion, bring up ur concerns about SMN there they might pay attention & hopefully they are listening. Cause SMN could end up being the one job majority of games avoid. Cause of now a SMN Job is a bit broken. If ur summon dies then you should be in big trouble.

You could do a hole battle without summoning Teen primals, lets face it there the Teen versions of there adult self... Teen Primals (not including Topaz carbuncle such an amazing tank imo), & it wouldn't make a major difference in the fight. They need be a bit bigger or when they use there main attack for instance Teen (Egi) Shiva uses Diamond Dust she will transform into her Primal Form & do the attack at the same time this will drain what like 40% of ur MP.

[Necro_Draco]

I don't care how bad the Summoner sucks, I just like being a Summoner...