(Un)Official Arcanist/Summmoner Feedback Thread

[PriyaJugulataris]

Some of the new 2.1 items look so nice! Has anyone started making a BiS yet? (with Allagan book, and without allagan book)

Courtesy of T0rin (448 acc):
Summoner's Horn
Summoner's Doublet
Summoner's Ringbands
Allagan Rope Belt of Casting
Allagan Breeches of Casting
Allagan Boots of Casting
Hero's Necklace of Casting
Tremor Earring of Casting
Hero's Bracelet of Casting
Hero's Ring of Casting
Vortex Ring of Casting

[Nemhy]

Courtesy of T0rin (448 acc):
Summoner's Horn
Summoner's Doublet
Summoner's Ringbands
Allagan Rope Belt of Casting
Allagan Breeches of Casting
Allagan Boots of Casting
Hero's Necklace of Casting
Tremor Earring of Casting
Hero's Bracelet of Casting
Hero's Ring of Casting
Vortex Ring of Casting

T0rin? sounds like a tool if you ask me =V. KIDDING, I'M KIDDING!

Interesting, does the added crit outweigh Garuda not being hitcap? I saw the 459 acc set (which IMO is overkill), is there no set that gets a bit closer without going way over?

[T0rin]

T0rin? sounds like a tool if you ask me =V. KIDDING, I'M KIDDING!

Interesting, does the added crit outweigh Garuda not being hitcap? I saw the 459 acc set (which IMO is overkill), is there no set that gets a bit closer without going way over?

Mmmhmm.

The DPS you gain from Garuda for going from 448 acc to 450+ does not outweigh the DPS you lose on your SMN going from 448 acc to 450+. It is quite likely that acc caps at 449.. my parsing at 447 showed a <1% accuracy loss on Garuda, so 448 is near enough to the cap that any additional accuracy at the cost of secondary stats is just going to be a DPS loss.

There is a bit of diminishing returns on accuracy gains the closer you get to the cap, so that last 1 or 2 accuracy doesn't give much return. If it was 440 vs 450 that'd be one thing, but thankfully it is not.

And this BiS set is notably better than the old one by a good ~5 weighted int, not even counting the new Allagan book. (which is a monster from a DPS perspective)

And no, there is no set that I've been able to put together to hit the low 250s and still maintain near max potential DPS.

[Nemhy]

Mmmhmm.

The DPS you gain from Garuda for going from 448 acc to 450+ does not outweigh the DPS you lose on your SMN going from 448 acc to 450+. It is quite likely that acc caps at 449.. my parsing at 447 showed a <1% accuracy loss on Garuda, so 448 is near enough to the cap that any additional accuracy at the cost of secondary stats is just going to be a DPS loss.

There is a bit of diminishing returns on accuracy gains the closer you get to the cap, so that last 1 or 2 accuracy doesn't give much return. If it was 440 vs 450 that'd be one thing, but thankfully it is not.

And this BiS set is notably better than the old one by a good ~5 weighted int, not even counting the new Allagan book. (which is a monster from a DPS perspective)

ahhh okay! Thank you very much for the fast reply! Now I just gotta decide if I care enough to get the myth boots for one week till they patch it. Probably not cause they're ugly! :P

[Truedragon]

HM primals have random loot though. Just saying. There might be a lock out.

[Madoka]

Well even if it is a loot lockout as long as I can do it until I get the Garuda ring and titan earrings I'm fine. If I can only try once per week and have to lot against other smns and blms though that won't be fun

[Riotpersona]

So is the omnitome even worth using over Wiyu zenith?

[T0rin]

So is the omnitome even worth using over Wiyu zenith?

I'll use it until allagan pants drop. It's a good stop gap when transitioning between i70 and i90 gear because of the accuracy issues.

[horaiyo]

So is the omnitome even worth using over Wiyu zenith?

I've been tinkering around with some gear ideas using omnitome, but the problem is that when my group finally downs t5 and if I get the wep, then I'll need totally different items to get back to 440-450 acc. That said, who knows when that will be so maybe I'll just go ahead and roll with it. That said, it kinda irritates me that I just bought my myth pants a couple weeks ago to fix my accuracy problem, but that's life I guess.

[Roy_M]

for the Garuda>Ifrit fight I rather use Ifrit for Trash Mobs (stun and I feel is more dmg wise skill+autoattack) and Garuda for Bosses (Contagion <3 ) . I don t have dummy tests but I ve seen them from other uses and based on my exp I rather stick to it.

I m not in turn 4+ yet so can t tell as much about Acc miss atm my smn has:
Body/Head AF+1
Full DL
Relic+1

I always use Buttons but so far I didn t see Garuda or I missing it might change in turn 4+ altho keep in mind if you are only doing Turn 4-5 the whole week (and you wont) and do nothing else acc isn t as usefull compared to the rest of the game s content