(Un)Official Arcanist/Summmoner Feedback Thread

[Nemhy]

Courtesy of T0rin (448 acc):
Summoner's Horn
Summoner's Doublet
Summoner's Ringbands
Allagan Rope Belt of Casting
Allagan Breeches of Casting
Allagan Boots of Casting
Hero's Necklace of Casting
Tremor Earring of Casting
Hero's Bracelet of Casting
Hero's Ring of Casting
Vortex Ring of Casting

T0rin? sounds like a tool if you ask me =V. KIDDING, I'M KIDDING!

Interesting, does the added crit outweigh Garuda not being hitcap? I saw the 459 acc set (which IMO is overkill), is there no set that gets a bit closer without going way over?

[T0rin]

T0rin? sounds like a tool if you ask me =V. KIDDING, I'M KIDDING!

Interesting, does the added crit outweigh Garuda not being hitcap? I saw the 459 acc set (which IMO is overkill), is there no set that gets a bit closer without going way over?

Mmmhmm.

The DPS you gain from Garuda for going from 448 acc to 450+ does not outweigh the DPS you lose on your SMN going from 448 acc to 450+. It is quite likely that acc caps at 449.. my parsing at 447 showed a <1% accuracy loss on Garuda, so 448 is near enough to the cap that any additional accuracy at the cost of secondary stats is just going to be a DPS loss.

There is a bit of diminishing returns on accuracy gains the closer you get to the cap, so that last 1 or 2 accuracy doesn't give much return. If it was 440 vs 450 that'd be one thing, but thankfully it is not.

And this BiS set is notably better than the old one by a good ~5 weighted int, not even counting the new Allagan book. (which is a monster from a DPS perspective)

And no, there is no set that I've been able to put together to hit the low 250s and still maintain near max potential DPS.

[Nemhy]

Mmmhmm.

The DPS you gain from Garuda for going from 448 acc to 450+ does not outweigh the DPS you lose on your SMN going from 448 acc to 450+. It is quite likely that acc caps at 449.. my parsing at 447 showed a <1% accuracy loss on Garuda, so 448 is near enough to the cap that any additional accuracy at the cost of secondary stats is just going to be a DPS loss.

There is a bit of diminishing returns on accuracy gains the closer you get to the cap, so that last 1 or 2 accuracy doesn't give much return. If it was 440 vs 450 that'd be one thing, but thankfully it is not.

And this BiS set is notably better than the old one by a good ~5 weighted int, not even counting the new Allagan book. (which is a monster from a DPS perspective)

ahhh okay! Thank you very much for the fast reply! Now I just gotta decide if I care enough to get the myth boots for one week till they patch it. Probably not cause they're ugly! :P

[T0rin]

ahhh okay! Thank you very much for the fast reply! Now I just gotta decide if I care enough to get the myth boots for one week till they patch it. Probably not cause they're ugly! :P

Probably not... I'm going to be hitting the EM primal fights pretty hard after 1-5 is done, need that book and 2/3 accessories.

[Nemhy]

Probably not... I'm going to be hitting the EM primal fights pretty hard after 1-5 is done, need that book and 2/3 accessories.

Don't you have a one week lockout on all E-primal drops?

[Allyrion]

Don't you have a one week lockout on all E-primal drops?

The patch notes explicitly mention the CT loot lockout. But it says nothing like that about the EM Primals.
It was never mentioned to have one in any comments or live letters before that I've seen.
I see no reason to not assume it functions like the current HM Primals.

HM primals have random loot though. Just saying. There might be a lock out.

So are the Primal accessories.
The weapon is a different story, but it's clearly not related to the instance loot itself considering you have to kill all the primals to get it.
Probably a weekly quest or something.

[Nemhy]

The patch notes explicitly mention the CT loot lockout. But it says nothing like that about the EM Primals.
It was never mentioned to have one in any comments or live letters before that I've seen.
I see no reason to not assume it functions like the current HM Primals.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s!-2.1-and-2.2 It LOOKS like it only applies to the weapon but for arguments sake I'm gonna assume it does apply to all drops.

HM primals have random loot though. Just saying. There might be a lock out.

Well the accessories are also random drops. It's just the weapon that has the quest

[T0rin]

Don't you have a one week lockout on all E-primal drops?

Well, yeah, after I get one, right? I g uess I need to go back and look at the patch notes.