(Un)Official Arcanist/Summmoner Feedback Thread

[PriyaJugulataris]

well an enkindle shift to double the damage, double the cool down wouldn't be the end of the world IMO.

[Sylari]

So am I really the only one who thinks that Veil of Wiyu subplot is super lame? A story about a girl who's only defining traits are that she died and had pretty eyes doesn't really seem like much to inspire a legendary weapon. Even sillier that the summoner's relic title is a reference to that eye color (Though it could be worse I guess, at least the summoner title isn't about dying).

well an enkindle shift to double the damage, double the cool down wouldn't be the end of the world IMO.

That becomes problematic simply because now you have access to a 500 potency nuke with no opportunity cost associated with it. Against any sort of encounter where you need to quickly burn down multiple targets the spell becomes insanely powerful... while still being a largely negligible boost in damage on straight forward fights.

Between the fact that it's an off-action attack and the big boosts we can give it through rouse and spur makes it tremendously tricky to alter. Nevermind the fact that, as it's been said, Summoners are already in an amazing place and are more likely to get nerfed than buffed in the upcoming cycles (Again, I wouldn't be surprised if Wind Blast loses damage).

Sorta wondering how those DPS standings will shake out going into later tiers though in terms of scaling.

There is no need to remove spur if you buff enkindle because they are Summoners skill that are a cast on the pet and it will give us a reliable burst. Enkindle does 1144 damage after casting rouse and spur and it has a 5min cool down now Flare does 1144 damage and can be done every 30s after transpose and a few blizzards. To make Enkindle on par with flare the cool down should be reduced to 180s and buff the damage to 3,000.

This would be a reasonable point if Summoner damage wasn't already quite good. Sure I'd love to have more reliable burst but it's simply not reasonable to expect that right now... Though even with a 3 minute cooldown it'd hardly be reliable burst. The stuff about whether or not it's on par with Flare is irrelevant because it doesn't really matter of it's on par with Flare or not as we're not black mages.