(Un)Official Arcanist/Summmoner Feedback Thread

[Imoye]

Every one should be wanting the AOE to come from the pet, instead of from bane....... right?

I mean it is called summoner, and enkindle should have more potency and less recast time.

Am I crazy, or is everyone wanting the Summoner to deal more AOE instead of the pet.?

If you want a pure pet class, then you're playing the wrong game bro.

Look in general at classes that are too dependant on their pets. BM hunter and demo lock in WoW. They're both extremely dumbed down and easy to play. If that's the kind of class you want, then maybe you should go play WoW. Summoner pets are already doing a substaintial amount of damage, what more do you want, seriously?

SMN burst DPS sucks. That's the one thing the class really lacks.

Then why did you roll a summoner, want everything handed to you on a silver plate?

Summoner burst is crazy when you pop all CDs. DoT classes have ramp up times, that's just how it is. If you don't like it, go roll a BLM. DIfferent classes have different designs. You can't have everything in one class, then there wouldn't be any need for other alternatives, except from that 1 class.

[Engineer]

If you want a pure pet class, then you're playing the wrong game bro.

Look in general at classes that are too dependant on their pets. BM hunter and demo lock in WoW. They're both extremely dumbed down and easy to play. If that's the kind of class you want, then maybe you should go play WoW. Summoner pets are already doing a substaintial amount of damage, what more do you want, seriously?.

What do I want? Hmm maybe a final fantasy Summoner. I didn't think I was playing the wrong game since I'm playing Final Fantasy.

I pick a job that's called a "Summoner" in a final fantasy game that doesn't focus on Summoning, but Dots instead and I'm in the wrong for wanting a pet focused job?

I've never played WOW, and you probably never played any other Final Fantasy.

[pandabearcat]

What do I want? Hmm maybe a final fantasy Summoner. I didn't think I was playing the wrong game since I'm playing Final Fantasy.

Please read the other 27 pages of this thread, and the other 50 pages or whatever of the other thread, and the other maybe 10s of other threads with this same idea that this isn't the "Final Fantasy" summoner.

Bottom line is, hey look, Square made this game. They decide what a summoner is.

And furthermore, you'll find the player base is pretty split on whether they like summoner or not.

You aren't going to be able to push your complete revamp of this class, because its not going to happen. Period.

Fwiw I sort of agree with you that summoner isn't what I expected. Am I going to rage about it? Nope. Just either play the class or move on.

[Engineer]

Bottom line is, hey look, Square made this game. They decide what a summoner is.

And furthermore, you'll find the player base is pretty split on whether they like summoner or not.

You aren't going to be able to push your complete revamp of this class, because its not going to happen. Period.

Fwiw I sort of agree with you that summoner isn't what I expected. Am I going to rage about it? Nope. Just either play the class or move on.

Not raging lol. Simply giving feedback.

This is true, they decide what summoner is, even if it isn't summoner..... oh well, I guess I don't need to play the game.


Your the one that seems to be raging lol. But.... you could be defending a class you like, and i understand that, but you can't make people stop fighting for what they want.

The problem right now is some got to love this current class, and some missing the real summoner. SE could've made this class a necromancer while adding the true summoner way later. But oh well too little, too late.

Or maybe adding Evoker as a new class and High Summoner as the pet focused job later on. This will keep both parties happy. ..
But I'm not counting on this to happen.

[T0rin]

Then why did you roll a summoner, want everything handed to you on a silver plate?

Summoner burst is crazy when you pop all CDs. DoT classes have ramp up times, that's just how it is. If you don't like it, go roll a BLM. DIfferent classes have different designs. You can't have everything in one class, then there wouldn't be any need for other alternatives, except from that 1 class.

Who said I wanted everything handed to me on a silver plate? I was making a constructive analysis of the pros and cons of SMN vs BLM. It is true that we do better ST damage, worse AoE damage on targets > 4, and better AoE damage on targets <= 4. It is true that we don't do good burst damage.

I for one think that is called 'balance'. I was never saying SMN is bad because we can't burst, I was simply stating the reality for someone who specifically asked how it compares to BLM.

Seriously, defensive much? It is like you didn't even read my post, and just picked a single sentence to disagree with. Oh wait, that is probably what you actually did.