(Un)Official Arcanist/Summmoner Feedback Thread

[xxalucard]

Don't even mention turn 4, because SMN is hands down the best job for that fight, and we do more effective AoE than anyone else due to Miasma II+Disease. Fyi, Shadow Flare slow works on the ants + rooks, hits knights, we can bane to knights without hurting ourselves, and Disease halves the healing the ants do to themselves.

This is wrong. When you bane to a knight you do take ~1k+ damage (though the dots themselves, once bane'd, don't hurt you, and shadow flare isn't reflected)

Also, I'm done after this post, in this topic, talking about bane and AoE. Go ahead, get us buffed. Make Bane hit all targets. We'll be FoTM and then nerfed, which will most likely effect our ST and 2-4 target. I don't need to be the best at everything.

I still don't see how hitting a few more targets (how many are gonna be perfectly squeezed into a 5 yalm radius?) will make us the best at everything.

[Sharinar]

First of all if bane hitting all the targets without contagion would not be overpowered, but on par with fire2. the 3 dot doesn´t only have a ramp up time but also a ramp down time. contagion simply moving the ramp down time further back leaving us with more time to use other dmg from source like miasma2 or shadowflare. the dps from bane will go down after 15 to 18 second when bio will expire. and even go further down when miasma expire. that is except we do use another ramp up and another aetherflow stack.
that mean also on a 2-4 mob pack the bane dps should be on par with fire2 as long we don´t use contagion and can spam other skills like tri-dasaster or ruin.
consider cleave as an class mechanic would mean that all dps class would have cleave skills and be capable to of more damage on small pack than aoe or single target would do in that situation.

in the end square-enix are in the end the one who decides how things will be nerf/buffed.