(Un)Official Arcanist/Summmoner Feedback Thread

[Fushikage]

Personally I don't want extreme changes for summoner as saltz said bane could have a small range increase. As I keep saying my problem with the summoner is the pets the pets should be the main show of the class not the DOTS. The pets need to be tweaked and the cooldown on enkindle.

I definitely agree with this point. The pets are clearly the focus of the Summoner class and should be held as such. If people want a DOT only class, they can go and play Shadow Priest on WoW.

On a somewhat related topic, I really want the sizes of the pets to be more menacing. Sure they're about the right size for a Lalafel, but if a Highlander summons an ifrit and it's not event half the size of the Highlander, it takes away from the impact of summoning something so... awesome.

[abesut]

They really need to increase the aoe range on both bane and Enkindle. 5yd? really? Can't count how many times I've missed mobs with dots/dmg because the aoe range on Bane/Enkindle is so tiny. 10yd or perhaps 15yd would be nice.
Also the cd on Enkindle seems far to high considering how little dmg it actually does.
And yes we can compare Enkindle to Flare. Since they are both Lv50 spells, except that one of them can be casted over and over again(convert, elxir, ether etc), and does more dmg, where the other one got neither and 300sec cd.

[Daenerys]

the ability to use commands while casting

The fact that I can't tell my pet what to do in the middle of a long cast time drives me up the wall. That is the PERFECT time to be commanding it to change targets, move, whatever, instead of staring at the cast bar and drumming my feet on the floor. I can't stress enough how much this needs to be fixed.

They really need to increase the aoe range on both bane and Enkindle

I also agree with this. Hitting adds with bane (I don't have enkindle yet) off a boss is hit or miss, if the boss's hitbox is really big. Heck, I can't even always hit all the mobs in a dungeon pack that my bf is tanking (he's a Roegadyn) because his character is so big. 15 yards seems excessive (pvp I can see a lot of people complaining) but 10 would be good.

I agree with whoever said make the pets passive on mounting. PLEASE do this or make them do the disappear/reappear thing that minions do when you mount.

[Vackashken]

I never liked the idea of this class being a DoT class. Those actions should have been direct commands for your summon with their nature and abilities changing per summon.

[shinros]

I never liked the idea of this class being a DoT class. Those actions should have been direct commands for your summon with their nature and abilities changing per summon.

Funny thing is that is what I was hoping for when I picked the job but I was disappointed.

[nimuniverse]

I can understand your feeling of not wanting to be DoT class. SMN in ffxiv arr is nothing like SMN from ffxi online so if you are used to the old SMN then yes that's a huge change on gameplay. I don't think SE is going to rework the class that way, the most they will do is tweak some actions. Personally, I prefer the old SMN. But this is a different game.
On the side note, I really do want Beastmaster but I don't think it's going to work well in this game considering mobs are weak. It's not like the old game where you need party to get exp or do a beastmaster or do ninja/redmage or dragoon/whitemage to solo. Beastmaster was the best for solo leveling and the most fun for me due to adrenaline rush I get and the fact that it requires focus. And I am talking about ffxi online before they water it down to compete it with world of warcraft.

[Dyvid]

Well I'm only 40 but I have noticed a few things that need to be looked at.

-Allow control of pets while casting.
-Some kind of burst damage. DoT is great for the big boss but when you have kill adds quickly, Sunken Temple, we need a little extra. Maybe ability that would increase dps output of either mage or pet for 20s or something.

[Kyronex]

Some kind of burst damage. DoT is great for the big boss but when you have kill adds quickly, Sunken Temple, we need a little extra. Maybe ability that would increase dps output of either mage or pet for 20s or something.

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[Dixa]

part 1

there is no logical reason for tri-disaster to be 30 potency since it does not have a secondary effect, and every other aoe in the game is at least 100 potency. hell, bards have a 100 potency aoe with no cooldown that applies the very same debuff as eye for an eye (-10% dmg for 20s).

summoner losing access to a 5th dot in aero also makes no sense really since scholars still have access to thunder from thaumaturge. let summoner use conjurer cross class abilities (which is basically a weak protect that paladins and scholars also sport and aero) to add a 5th dot to the rotation, adding complexity that all dot classes should have.

for the above to work, the debuff limit needs to be changed. it's not likely technically possible to completely remove it, but it needs to be closer to 100 debuff slots even if we can't see them under the target health bars. nothing like dropping 3 dots on svara, hitting fester and having it hit for....zero damage. this is unacceptable.

[Dixa]

part 2

remove the aetherflow mechanic from fester and bane. these abilities have cooldowns, this alone prevents them from being spammed. aetherflow mechanic should only be for energy drain. give them mana costs.

increase the base potency of bio, bio 2 and miasma 1 to 50 each. increase the potency of miasma 2 to 30. increase the potency of shadow flare to 50. increase the potency of ruin to 100.

rework eye for an eye into a damage shield that deals damage when struck and grants emnity to the buffed target. the current debuff it provides is duplicated by bards on an aoe with no cooldown making it an entirely redundant and useless ability.

change the enkindle cooldown to 20s. add it to the aetherflow mechanic.

that is my feedback.