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  1. #501
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post

    On the other hand, wow caster cross class abilities blow.

    I noticed that surecast is still a POS and they're likely not making it any better.

    But thats not even the most ridiculous thing.

    The most ridiculous thing is MONK BUFFS WTF.

    Also uh, did you notice that "any direct damage interrupts casting".


    Do casters have any mobility options? Do they have any instacast snares?

    EDIT2:

    also this: When multiple characters are playing the same class/job in a party, the gauge for level 2 and level 3 limit breaks will now fill more slowly than before.

    why...?
    Those bitter tears taste so sweet. Come on now, you honestly telling me you didnt see some nerfing coming regarding ranged dps. Pride before fall.

    Mobility options? Are you kidding me? You have the biggest mobility option already. Its called freedom of movement just for being a ranged dps.
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  2. #502
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemhy View Post
    T0rin? sounds like a tool if you ask me =V. KIDDING, I'M KIDDING!

    Interesting, does the added crit outweigh Garuda not being hitcap? I saw the 459 acc set (which IMO is overkill), is there no set that gets a bit closer without going way over?
    Mmmhmm.

    The DPS you gain from Garuda for going from 448 acc to 450+ does not outweigh the DPS you lose on your SMN going from 448 acc to 450+. It is quite likely that acc caps at 449.. my parsing at 447 showed a <1% accuracy loss on Garuda, so 448 is near enough to the cap that any additional accuracy at the cost of secondary stats is just going to be a DPS loss.

    There is a bit of diminishing returns on accuracy gains the closer you get to the cap, so that last 1 or 2 accuracy doesn't give much return. If it was 440 vs 450 that'd be one thing, but thankfully it is not.

    And this BiS set is notably better than the old one by a good ~5 weighted int, not even counting the new Allagan book. (which is a monster from a DPS perspective)

    And no, there is no set that I've been able to put together to hit the low 250s and still maintain near max potential DPS.
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    Last edited by T0rin; 12-17-2013 at 03:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T0rin View Post
    Mmmhmm.

    The DPS you gain from Garuda for going from 448 acc to 450+ does not outweigh the DPS you lose on your SMN going from 448 acc to 450+. It is quite likely that acc caps at 449.. my parsing at 447 showed a <1% accuracy loss on Garuda, so 448 is near enough to the cap that any additional accuracy at the cost of secondary stats is just going to be a DPS loss.

    There is a bit of diminishing returns on accuracy gains the closer you get to the cap, so that last 1 or 2 accuracy doesn't give much return. If it was 440 vs 450 that'd be one thing, but thankfully it is not.

    And this BiS set is notably better than the old one by a good ~5 weighted int, not even counting the new Allagan book. (which is a monster from a DPS perspective)
    ahhh okay! Thank you very much for the fast reply! Now I just gotta decide if I care enough to get the myth boots for one week till they patch it. Probably not cause they're ugly! :P
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  4. #504
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemhy View Post
    ahhh okay! Thank you very much for the fast reply! Now I just gotta decide if I care enough to get the myth boots for one week till they patch it. Probably not cause they're ugly! :P
    Probably not... I'm going to be hitting the EM primal fights pretty hard after 1-5 is done, need that book and 2/3 accessories.
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  5. #505
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    Quote Originally Posted by T0rin View Post
    Probably not... I'm going to be hitting the EM primal fights pretty hard after 1-5 is done, need that book and 2/3 accessories.
    Don't you have a one week lockout on all E-primal drops?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemhy View Post
    Don't you have a one week lockout on all E-primal drops?
    The patch notes explicitly mention the CT loot lockout. But it says nothing like that about the EM Primals.
    It was never mentioned to have one in any comments or live letters before that I've seen.
    I see no reason to not assume it functions like the current HM Primals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truedragon View Post
    HM primals have random loot though. Just saying. There might be a lock out.
    So are the Primal accessories.
    The weapon is a different story, but it's clearly not related to the instance loot itself considering you have to kill all the primals to get it.
    Probably a weekly quest or something.
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  7. #507
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    HM primals have random loot though. Just saying. There might be a lock out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    The patch notes explicitly mention the CT loot lockout. But it says nothing like that about the EM Primals.
    It was never mentioned to have one in any comments or live letters before that I've seen.
    I see no reason to not assume it functions like the current HM Primals.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s!-2.1-and-2.2 It LOOKS like it only applies to the weapon but for arguments sake I'm gonna assume it does apply to all drops.


    Quote Originally Posted by Truedragon View Post
    HM primals have random loot though. Just saying. There might be a lock out.
    Well the accessories are also random drops. It's just the weapon that has the quest
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  9. #509
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemhy View Post
    Don't you have a one week lockout on all E-primal drops?
    Well, yeah, after I get one, right? I g uess I need to go back and look at the patch notes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemhy View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s!-2.1-and-2.2 It LOOKS like it only applies to the weapon but for arguments sake I'm gonna assume it does apply to all drops.
    Primal Extreme mode loot and Crystal Tower loot will have a 1 week lockout. You have to beat all three EM Primals to loot one item.
    We both know that loot lock out has to only apply to the weapons.
    The description with it is clearly only relevant to the weapon.
    There's a fringe chance I guess.
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