(Un)Official Arcanist/Summmoner Feedback Thread

[Madoka]

Ifrit will do more dps if you leave him on Sic, but that leaves his stun unchecked. Also you can still use Contagion before baning trash mobs for nearly every pull

[Roy_M]

Ifrit will do more dps if you leave him on Sic, but that leaves his stun unchecked. Also you can still use Contagion before baning trash mobs for nearly every pull

Trash Mobs die quite fast before you end your DoT rotation or don t get the full extend of it to use contagion, altho I might go for it for the adds or phases of Turn 4 with Garuda but for trash mobs like everything else I rather Ifrit.

[Madoka]

Trash Mobs die quite fast before you end your DoT rotation or don t get the full extend of it to use contagion, altho I might go for it for the adds or phases of Turn 4 with Garuda but for trash mobs like everything else I rather Ifrit.

If you have a static with an average ilvl of 75-80+ sure. But any average PUG or DF group takes at least 40-50 seconds per pull in my experience. Especially when I'm the only geared dps in there. In T4 I usually double bane the spiders and hope the game was smart enough to not try and throw the DoTs on something that already had them, already have shadow flare up and before I would run in and Miasma 2, now I can run in and miasma2 and Blizz2 I guess

[Roy_M]

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You got a point there most of the time we run with our LS and most of them are highly equipment or even if they aren t I still don t think contagion use or Garuda AoE over Ifrit s but for PuGs somehow undergeared I get your point. I will take that Double Bane tip for Turn 4 I m aiming to do it this week but with all the new content :P turn 1-2 at least . Yes I always open with Shadowflare even on single mobs to be honest I didn t use Miasma 2 as much but since I have no thunder I will go for it I used it only pre contagion and if I didn t have a risk to die but I wouldn t consider to spam B2 I would like to know your thought about smn 2.1 on turn 4

[KiiNGKRUSH]

Leaving Ifrit on Sic will actually yeild less damage as all his other moves do less damage then his Burning Strike spam on obey. Since he will repeat that move over and over again in addition to his extra melee strike I usually leave him on obey to max his DPS and have stun on command when needed.

[Madoka]

Won't he jump into using another move sooner though? He waits 4 seconds before using his main move again, which is the whole reason he doesn't match Garuda even with his auto attack. Despite being weaker moves if he's throwing them out sooner he would end up slightly higher on dps.

I mean there's really no reason to ever use him because a contagion -> bane lets you do more in the long run than any sort of dps boost he might have hanging out on Sic. Also any dps gain he would have would be pretty minor

[Kalandros]

You're all not very competent if you believe Monks and Dragoons are leagues ahead of us or that we lost "playability"

Seriously, I see very little difference with how I played before 2.1 - just no thunder to cast, thats it, thats all. Nothing more, nothing less. No impact really.

[Georgevonfranken]

LB is there to win the fight in Turn 5. Or I guess, show me a group that can easily clear phase 3 without it.

While true you don't need lb 3

[Madoka]

T4 has two of our BiS pieces, you should always try and do it if you don't have them yet.

Also I don't think the spiders are frequent enough for MP to be an issue using a few blizz2's on them.

[T0rin]

T4 has two of our BiS pieces, you should always try and do it if you don't have them yet.

Also I don't think the spiders are frequent enough for MP to be an issue using a few blizz2's on them.

Ran 1-5 last night, did my usual double Bane on spiders -> Miasma 2, then spammed Blizzard. Towards the end of the phase I burned my last Aetherflow charge on ED and Aetherflowed, put me back up practically to max mana. (I usually always burn a charge on ED in phase 1 simply to avoid running out of mana in phase 3, but with no thunder now, it may not even be necessary) Spamming Blizzard did not remotely run me out of mana.. with a good group, the AoE should be strong enough that you don't get more than 3 blizzards in before it is time for phase 2.