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  1. #1
    Player
    Rad5's Avatar
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    Character
    Rykter Santiago
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 1
    The only times I have felt weaker as a Summoner are when I am farming fates on my own and when I am a dps who has to take out boss adds QUICKLY.

    Lets start with fates, if I am not in a group that fate mobs are hit or miss for me. If I get to the fate before the bulk of the fate farmers arrive I will do well. If I arrive mid way I am screwed. However, if there is only one fate boss or a main fate boss then all is well.

    Next, dps as a summoner can be tricky. I don't have a problem with main bosses or regular pulls, but it is those tricky timed adds with the bosses that hurt me. I have to lay a foundation to kill adds. I have to set up my DoTs, use Bane, and spam tri-disaster (which is slow). Then I have to WAIT for the damage to happen. Doesn't play out too well with the boss adds in Aurum Vale. I can use sic, but the pets take too much time moving from the boss to the adds. Then I have to deal with players who get upset because I can't put out like a black mage or bard.
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    RegentP's Avatar
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    Location
    Grandia
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    Character
    Roy Fokker
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    I'm loving Ifirt's Boost, So I finally go to run Coil with my FC and they pretty much carried me, and show me the ropes, I was feeling in for the BLM and T4, they said they needed my AoE, Ifirt got the job done in turn 4 and did not die.
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    Character
    Virtual On
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Pretty big SMN nerfs in the patch notes.

    Thunder Can now only be used by thaumaturge and black mage.

    Sustain Will now consume MP sintead of HP

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemhy View Post
    Losing thunder... no other buffs that really offset this. Welp there goes all my time itemizing wasted
    We won't even have 5 useful cross class abilities now.

    Swiftcast, Raging Strikes, Surecast, Quelling Strikes..And, what? Hawk's Eye? Yes, we need DEX!


    OH MY GOD

    Allagan Boots of Casting
    Before: INT+18, VIT+18, Critical Hit Rate+21, Accuracy+15
    After: INT+18, VIT+18, Spell Speed+21, Determination+11


    What in the actual...
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    Last edited by Kevee; 12-15-2013 at 02:21 AM.

  4. #4
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    Character
    Nemhy Viteri
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Losing thunder... no other buffs that really offset this. Welp there goes all my time itemizing wasted
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Asbel Furybrand
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    Allagan Boots of Casting
    Before: INT+18, VIT+18, Critical Hit Rate+21, Accuracy+15
    After: INT+18, VIT+18, Spell Speed+21, Determination+11

    God damnit SE.
    (1)

  6. #6
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    Ragnirok's Avatar
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    Character
    Ragnirok Highstrike
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    couldn't help but notice they didn't fix the stupid accuracy requirement for pets either.
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  7. #7
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    Character
    Nemhy Viteri
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Summoner is the most nerfed job this patch and they don't fix any of the problems to offset this.
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  8. #8
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    Kevee's Avatar
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    Character
    Virtual On
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nemhy View Post
    Summoner is the most nerfed job this patch and they don't fix any of the problems to offset this.
    I'd be fine with a few nerfs to potency, but the way they did this is unacceptable, especially with not fixing any of our multiple problems.

    They should've changed BLM AF2 boots, lowered/fixed SF, and then slightly lower a few skills rather than making us cast RUIN some more.
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  9. #9
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    Character
    Shanoa Varhara
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Not to mention the changes to Pet AI with concern to Obey since it seems like Obey is essentially Steady. So either we micro manage all of Garuda's actions or set her to Sic so she'll do less DPS.
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  10. #10
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    Character
    Shamirah Zullya
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 59
    That is the most stupid patch ever. Oh, we'll take away a dot on a DOTbased CLASS. Buuuut ! We'll give them an aoe ! ... after nerfing it of course.

    Oh the BLM's boots has the same stats as the allagan one ? Let's change the allagan boots' stat to screw the SMN.

    I'm really mad. I used my one-time only mythological item exchange to trade my af boots with the helm... ('cause I won the allagan boots) but with this RETARDED change... I'm screwed now. THANK YOU SQUARE ENIX.
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