(Un)Official Arcanist/Summmoner Feedback Thread

[Jilse]

Summoner class needs a better Limit Break.

(1) I don't know where I get the cane that do the Limit Break - The cane has nothing to do with summoner so far.

(2) It would be better if we can summon our pet to do a big Limit Break.

Astral Flow, yes please!!

[Nohime]

Summoner class needs a better Limit Break.

(1) I don't know where I get the cane that do the Limit Break - The cane has nothing to do with summoner so far.

(2) It would be better if we can summon our pet to do a big Limit Break.

summoner in here not looks like summoner
the primal egi should've been more important in dmg terms, because its SUMMONER. (as in YUNA in FF X/X-2)
i choose summoner because i like to have primal as my pet. but what i get is some mini primal wanna be, titan egi looks worst,,, what the hell is with that clump of yellow balloon.

and its sad that the primal-egi are not functioning like what i expected!
but i still love my summoner
i hope SE can made summoner class, more summoner like

[Nemhy]

summoner in here not looks like summoner
the primal egi should've been more important in dmg terms, because its SUMMONER. (as in YUNA in FF X/X-2)
i choose summoner because i like to have primal as my pet. but what i get is some mini primal wanna be, titan egi looks worst,,, what the hell is with that clump of yellow balloon.

and its sad that the primal-egi are not functioning like what i expected!
but i still love my summoner
i hope SE can made summoner class, more summoner like

Egis will not be changed no matter how much you cry. Also, Yuna was no longer a Summoner in X-2.

[Jediman]

Egis will not be changed no matter how much you cry. Also, Yuna was no longer a Summoner in X-2.

well its a freaking disaster not having Egis close to same size as in ffix thats was the whole point of them.
You will find people will never be happy when they saw titian Egis start tanking shit there was alike a mass agro on the forums.

Can't wait how they roll on beast-master later stage and how pet size will be. It will suck, If its bigger then Egis lol

[Jediman]

We still asking for EGI to be big pile of shit right now.

[Kimzark]

what about giving Summoner the Death magic no? and make it 100% effective... on bosses too -.-
Or doom with the option to spread it too with bane to a full instance...

Resume: Stop crying about your job and learn how to play it...

EDIT: BLMs do high burst damage to single target
dont come with fire II and Blizzard II theories since they do not work... with relic+1 full dl and hero ring my fire II with Astral fire III is around 400 dmg and i can use it only 3-4 times so thats 1.2 - 1.6k dmg needing to rotate my skills (in other words 10+ seconds without doing no AoE damage) and in those 10 seconds your debuffs hit 3x... doing way more damage than my fire II...
about Blizzard II its true we can spam it easilly... but since we need to be right next to monsters, we get aggro and die preety fast since BLM are squishy.

So between crap damage or die... i'd say BLMs arent better than SMN

For the people talking about mana ending... my arcanist at lv 20ish have aetherflowII only... and i use Bio + Miasma + Thunder I + Aero (which is alot of mana used)... and i've never NEVER run out of mana... this means 2 things: 1- you dont know how to play SMN period or 2- you are using your mana regens way too late and eventually run out of mana because you used badly your mana regen buffs and now they're on cooldown (which means you dont know how to play it either).

2nd edit: I just spoke with 3 high geared summoners from my FC and they all confirmed that is ... nearlly impossible for a summoner to run out of mana at high level instances (end of the edit)

So yeah classes are more or less balanced... there are some minor issues that SE will fix over time, but this aint one of them.

P.S. i'm sorry if i look angry or anything, but i'ts not the case... neither i'm trying to flame on.

[GinTama]

restricting bane like that is laughable, no way does bane more dmg than fire2 ....

[MasamuneBranford]

Summoners do 35 + 35 + 40 + 25*1.5 = 147.5 damage every 3 seconds with Bane.

Their only other AoE is Tri-Disaster, which is also does 30 damage every 3 seconds.

This is a total of 177.5 damage.

If you also Miasma II, you get 187.5.

BLM, using only Fire II, does 100 * ~1.8 = 180 damage each fire II, again every 3 seconds.

Please tell me how Bane only spreading to 3 targets is balanced, and which fight has Bane doing more damage than Fire II.

All that math and you still don't get it. While the blm keeps casting fire2, the smn can be casting ruin 3 all the while it's egi continues to attack. You completely ignored these factors in your DPS every 3 seconds.

[Crescent_Dusk]

All that math and you still don't get it. While the blm keeps casting fire2, the smn can be casting ruin 3 all the while it's egi continues to attack. You completely ignored these factors in your DPS every 3 seconds.

Ruin is not AoE. Neither is the egi. In AoE situations doing single target to 1 out of 6 mobs is pointless.

[Trihuuger]

SMN is GROSSLY inferior to BLM AoE after this nerf. Power pulling (Ie multiple packs at once) is no longer worth a damn with a SMN. This is bullshit.