Jump No Longer Necessary after Patch 1.17

[Alhanelem]

Free jumping like Mario or Ys makes no sense in a world that isn't designed to be explored through jumping, "Zelda styled" solves the needs of any kind of jump mechanic if at all needed.

"Zelda styled" sucks. The automatic jumping all too often happens when you don't even want it to (and other times it doesn't happen when you DO want it to). Free jumping doesn't mean the game has to become a platform action game. All you have to do is limit how much it can be done (e.g. with a stamina cost) and people will only use it when it is genuinely useful to them. But when it is useful to them, they should be in control of it, not the game.

[Seif]

This is total bs. I want jump because I want to JUMP not to fall down. People concerned about everybody bunnyhopping as a result of this clearly haven't played many other MMO's with jump in them. Free realms comes to mind where jump is the main action button (ps controller X) and people use it very sparingly without any limitations or cool-down timers.

[MaxWinter]

As long as dragoon has jump (asuming they add it in future) any other jump does not matter so much : )

[Dargoth_Draconia]

I give my seconds Kudos to jump feature. I still want to be able to jump in some form or fashion in this game.

[Cairdeas]

This is total bs. I want jump because I want to JUMP not to fall down. People concerned about everybody bunnyhopping as a result of this clearly haven't played many other MMO's with jump in them. Free realms comes to mind where jump is the main action button (ps controller X) and people use it very sparingly without any limitations or cool-down timers.

If Jump is implemented will you complain if you try and jump a up onto a cliff, its obvious you should be able to jump it, but because of zone balance SE has an invisible wall that prevents you from doing so?

[DNO]

i want jump and i will always want jump.

[Cairdeas]

i want jump and i will always want jump.

If Jump is implemented will you complain if you try and jump a up onto a cliff, its obvious you should be able to jump it, but because of zone balance SE has an invisible wall that prevents you from doing so?

[Alhanelem]

Yes. There's no such thing as "zone balance" in this context. I can accept the argument that certain areas weren't built with this ability in consideration- but as long as there's falling damage, being able to jump in and fall from most things will be fine. The only place where there is a real problem is with limsa lominsa, and I'd be fine with invisible walls where there is no ground below in the city only- towns are generally supposed to be safe places.

[Onidemon]

After the patch went live last night and they announced that collision detection was adjusted I did some testing. I did this testing on both Miqo'te, Elezen, and Lalafell.

All characters of various heights now no longer have issues passing over or through terrain where there are slight deviations. IE A Root from a tree wont stop a player from running, instead they will automatically walk over it.


Most minor cliffs (Between knee high and shoulder high on Lalafell and Knee to lower thigh high on Elezen) can now be scaled or dropped from with ease. Only cliffs that would encompass the entire height of an Elezen are unsaleable in most situations. These would not be viable for jumping to clear anyway.

In effect most situations that would normally have been cleared by jumping now no longer act as obstacles to the player.

Yes there might be a few areas to tweak this still, But I did these tests in all three Town Zones without any difficulty in scaling "Jump-able Heights"

So in my opinion this is no longer a valid argument towards Jumping.

Why are so much against jumping that you feel that you need to create a thread about it? If you don't like it then just don't use it or you could just go back to FFXI.

A game without jumping in 2011 is ridiculous. Also Yoshi-P said that jumping was to remove the feeling that you are tied to the ground all the time. Jumping does not only allow you to jump down a clif... it was never the point. It is to make you jump over a small fence or obstacle...

[Silent]

I think Jump should still be implemented. It's a good feature, and you can't go wrong with it.