Chocobo Companion Question

[J-Rolla]

Are doing fates better to lvl your chocobo, or just killing single mobs 1 by 1. Thx in advance.

[Phil1six2]

If this is true there needs to be a way to reset your chocobo's skills. There's no reason anyone should be forced upon a poorly allocated chocobo.

Wow, just simply wow... "we'd like you to look into how you’d like to specialize your companion and focus on acquiring the skills you need to make that happen."

I am sure you wont be stuck with a "poorly allocated" chocobo... but one different from me or the next person just a little, im sure they didnt design this so that you either have a God chocobo or a dud...

I like this it finally gives a little room for individuality!

[Zfz]

If this is true there needs to be a way to reset your chocobo's skills. There's no reason anyone should be forced upon a poorly allocated chocobo.

Indeed, being permanent without remedy also forces out creative play and experiment, which is part of the fun of any skill/stat allocation design.

[Ventus]

Hello,

Your understanding on this is correct. As your companion ranks up you’ll gain SP; however, the amount of SP you receive is limited, so it will not be possible to acquire every skill for all three stances (defender, attack, and healer). With that said, we'd like you to look into how you’d like to specialize your companion and focus on acquiring the skills you need to make that happen.

Alright that's good to know, the only issue now is I've put 1 point in each stance so it seems I can't max out choco healer which is the one I was aiming for first =(.

[FireHero]

Hello,

Your understanding on this is correct. As your companion ranks up you’ll gain SP; however, the amount of SP you receive is limited, so it will not be possible to acquire every skill for all three stances (defender, attack, and healer). With that said, we'd like you to look into how you’d like to specialize your companion and focus on acquiring the skills you need to make that happen.

Sorry but this dose not help. What people want to know is how many points we get so we can spend them wisely. Lots of players do not use them out of fear they might make a mistake or not have points to do what they want please clarify this!

[dekarguy]

Hello,

Your understanding on this is correct. As your companion ranks up you’ll gain SP; however, the amount of SP you receive is limited, so it will not be possible to acquire every skill for all three stances (defender, attack, and healer). With that said, we'd like you to look into how you’d like to specialize your companion and focus on acquiring the skills you need to make that happen.

Camate, could we at least get some information, either via tooltips, the tutorial, or on the forums of what the Max Rank and Max SP we can earn on the Chocobo Companion is? Considering we have to make permanent irreversible commitments when spending SP, not having that information from the beginning or on demand seems very problematic.

[GilbertLapine]

Hello,

Your understanding on this is correct. As your companion ranks up you’ll gain SP; however, the amount of SP you receive is limited, so it will not be possible to acquire every skill for all three stances (defender, attack, and healer). With that said, we'd like you to look into how you’d like to specialize your companion and focus on acquiring the skills you need to make that happen.

Please put out information on the total amount of SP acquired by max level and offer a reset for those who allocated skills in ignorance. Theres no excuse for putting players at a disadvantage like this -- if you're going to limit the amount of SP available it needs to be made known upfront so players can actually "specialize [our] companion and focus on acquiring skills [we] need," as opposed to having a random assortment of low level abilities acquired on the unrealized prospect of total completion.

The issue with not having respecs is that you put blind faith in the devs. You have faith that the ability/trait/whatever is working as intended, balanced, and overall does what it sets out to do. Have you ever seen an MMO with perfect balance and everything works as intended? I sure haven't. And lets pretend the devs ever decide something is not balanced and need to change things. What if I suddenly don't like the change. Are you saying I'm SOL?

I'm sorry if I don't wish to be punished because of bad design on the dev's part. Respecs gives us an out to this. It gives us the ability to not be severely disappointed when we spend hours dedicated to a game just to realize the devs have let us down and designed something poorly or have decided to change something that we now dislike.

It also gives us the ability to change our mind. This is a game where you can be any class on a single character and suddenly you're against letting me change my mind? You people are absurd.

Now if Chocobo breeding will be the answer to respecs, then I'm all on board for that. It's both flavorful and friendly to its users.

Truth. I'd be totally down for this, but the devs need still need to give a reset for those who started allocating skills in anticipation of total completion (having not been told otherwise). Given the game is otherwise without skill trees (aside from bonus stat allocation.. which is also rather ridiculous given, once again, that there are no true skill trees) it was totally reasonable to assume that all the chocobo companion skills could be acquired as well.

Honestly, I think they should be as a reward for anyone with the patience to level chocobos to max (the exp rate is pretty ridiculous..), but I suppose thats a conversation for another thread.

In either case, additional chocobo skills seem to be of such marginal benefit anyway given the limited scope of chocobo usefulness (i.e. soloing.. or fate parties when you don't have enough people, which rarely happens at end game...) that I can't imagine anyone putting much time into this aside from simply to say they've maxed it out for bragging rights. Even then, given chocobos evidently can't be truly "maxed", even that limited value has been reduced.

Since I'm here, I'll expound a little on my overall thoughts on the three big problems with chocobo companions:
1) Duty finder cancel.. makes them almost useless, to me at least. They're a convenience, but by no means a necessity, and often turn out to be more trouble than they're worth given this sad fact.
2) Vagueness on available skill points, not reset. Not only is it unclear what rank you chocobo can achieve (I'm assuming 10 based on the achievement, but theres no guarantee of this... so 10+9+...+2+1 = 55 SP total?), but theres no option to change this once you find out that you can't actually max out your chocobo (a totally reasonable assumption given theres no other skill tree system in the game). Furthermore, theres no way to know ahead of time how skills will actually play out with the AI (i.e. you may want an awesome tank chocobo, then level it and find its buggy as hell), so a reset is pretty important here.
3) Slow leveling. Given the insanity of chocobo skill trees, and the prospect of chocobo breeding in thefuture, it seems odd that SE would see fit to make the leveling so incredibly arduous. Chocobo leveling should be an afterthought, and it ought to be more akin to FC levelling, not old school FFXI grinding. Chocobos should also be getting quest and fate exp, not just combat exp.

A number of people have voiced concerns that chocobo skill resets would negate the purpose of potential chocobo breeding, but I would think people would want to breed multiple chocobos with different skillsets regardless of the presence of a skill reset.

Personally, especially if they ease up on the exp requirement, I would think people would have more incentive to breed multiple chocobos with different builds, then modify each build using resets as they get a better feel for how the AI handles the target usage situation.

its people who do not pay attention to mechanics that we have to implement resets. should no like any tier tree when assigning points they are perms but im up for resets once every 24hr use.

Putting bad grammar aside, if you're trying to say that people like myself, who evenly allocated skills anticipating a fully maxed chocobo, are fools for doing so because of some existing game mechanic, I'd love for you to point me to it.. like I said above, there aren't any skill trees in this game so I don't know why I'd be expected to anticipate one on my chocobo. The closest thing I can think of is bonus stat allocation, which is at least somewhat reasonable as we know what level we will max out at, unlike chocobo ranks. Theres been talk in this thread about the rank 10 achievement, but that said theres also an achievement for completing your level 30 class quest... should we have expected the game ended at level 30 based on that? Obviously not, especially given it was common knowledge the game is capped at 50, but the point is that until this thread I am unaware of instance in which SE actually made players aware of the fact that skills were to be allocated limitedly or what rank they would be capped at.

With the understanding that this game does indeed not support skill trees, my initial interpretation of the vague "how you allocate your sp is up to you, be wise about your choices because the decisions are permanent" text was that I should be cautious in my skill allocations by level to avoid a lopsided experience before hitting max. Evidently, that wasn't the intent of the active help, but there's no way for players to divine that on their own. Kudos to those who took the pessimist route and assumed SE would abruptly force skill tree decisions on them, but those who started allocating points in good faith that chocobos would follow the established skill norms from character progression should not be penalized for the error.

[MerlinOmniking]

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its people who do not pay attention to mechanics that we have to implement resets. should no like any tier tree when assigning points they are perms but im up for resets once every 24hr use.

[MarquisRegalia]

What I would love to see is a rework on the companion system. It's just quite frustrating as it is right now with your companion joining you in a party. It should be in a separate system. You can't do Guild leves although they're basically the same as normal leves which you can call your choco upon. You can't sign up for DF. You have to unsummon each time you move from point a to point b (if its a little far) eventhough you have another mount. It costs too much money to level you chocobo and its quite annoying the way it is now. It doesn't help it takes forever for it to level. I'm 42 on my first class my companion is 3 and I've used him a lot

[Alise]

What I would love to see is a rework on the companion system. You can't sign up for DF. You have to unsummon each time you move from point a to point b (if its a little far) eventhough you have another mount. It costs too much money to level you chocobo and its quite annoying the way it is now. It doesn't help it takes forever for it to level. I'm 42 on my first class my companion is 3 and I've used him a lot

This, my Companion stuck in level-2 forever too. I can't even get the point for cure yet despite I plan to chocobo to be a healer.
It also doesn't make sense of why you need to withdraw him first before you can ride another kind of mount? It waste a lot of time to call in and out. The most important thing is about why can't you use him during waiting for Duty?