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    Player Reiterpallasch's Avatar
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    Arya Stark
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    Leviathan
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    Leatherworker Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nibb View Post
    So your suggestion is to make BRDs a must have.
    Yes, DPS are a must have for any fight anywhere for anything. If you reread what I wrote, it's that a group of 1 tank, 1 healer and 2 bards have exactly 0 dps limit breaks.

    People saying that bard shouldn't have a DPS limit break because they do a lot of damage is like saying a healer shouldn't have a healer limit break because they do a lot of healing. How in the actual fuck does any of that make sense?
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    Last edited by Reiterpallasch; 09-04-2013 at 02:41 PM.

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    TaitoTots's Avatar
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    T'iato Tarsonie
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Meh even with my songs playing I find I still do heaps of damage. =/ And it only effects you not the whole party, it's easy to turn it off once you're done with it....I find the songs very use full.
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    Espi's Avatar
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    Espi Lee
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 65
    I find that having a healing limit break isnt't that bad. Usually, I just let the other dps limit break if the group needs it.

    It has saved a wipe many times if ever thebhealer gets behind for whatever reason.

    I'm all for a change though, I just don't think a DPS limit break is the answer. I think it should be some kind mp/tp regen.
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    Wishles's Avatar
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    Hope Aeterna
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    Yes, I agree with Espi. It's really useful when both healers are down and the party is about to wipe. I always save it for when that happens and there's no one able to res - or situationally if we need a tank up or someone up and there's no time to res.

    Healing full mp/tp LB would be great too. I wish all jobs/classes had custom LBs. Seems a bit lazy on SE's behalf to not have done that.
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    Hamburgers's Avatar
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    Hamburgers Nwootbeer
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    the problem is it heals for nothing because we have no mind
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    Thotor's Avatar
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    Faeldi Chantelune
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Hamburgers View Post
    the problem is it heals for nothing because we have no mind
    LB is not affected by mind and anyway, only LB3 should be used which is 100% hp heal + full rez.
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    _C-a-e-r-i-t-h_'s Avatar
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    Character
    Laura Palmer
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Even if you wanted to play a support Bard, you really can't. You can't use your songs constantly-- they drain MP, and they nerf your damage, and it's not like mages can't restore their own MP anyway.

    Bard has really high DPS and all the Archer skills (and Pugilist skills Bard can use) contribute to that. Two DoTs, lots of damage self-buffs, and crits like crazy.

    I will grant that there are times when the healer's dead and things have gone crazy and it's up to the Bard to save the day, but that just means activating those damage buffs you usually don't touch (Barrage) and kiting the boss while critting the heck out of it. All your daydream scenarios of using Healing Wind to revive the party? That takes three bars, and you're locked to one or two bars for pretty much the entire game.

    Maybe Healing Wind is a valuable end-game raid limit break, but that doesn't mean it's not useless for the first 49 levels and all the story dungeons/battles.
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    Chocob0charmer's Avatar
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    Character
    Chocobocharmer Bahamut
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    What really bothers me is having a healing LB, but no ability to raise. If you're gonna prevent me from dealing the big shot in 4 man dungeons, atleast make me able to bring up a fallen healer in mid battle (no LB3 in 4 man)
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    LunarEmerald's Avatar
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    Lunar Emerald
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Bard is a vital support role for endgame content. Lots unavoidable damage so mages are busy constantly healing and they can't keep their MP up. Mage's Ballad can make or break a fight.
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