Bard limit break does not make sense

[Skuld]

It's 'cause all that "Best Dps" parser-rage that make some bard thinks they must ONLY focus on damage. :3 All rangers more than bards, imho.

That's not true. I'm ok with the BRD role of support, with the way the songs work now (liked more on 1.0 however) but what's the point of healer LB if a brd can't heal? I mean as a support heal, if the whm needs a raise or w/e. This LB could fit on BRD1.0, not now.

[LunarEmerald]

That sounds fucking amazing. Why do people want to get rid of that? o_O Wish I had that handy when both healers died on primals..

You're missing the point. It's not because the limit break is bad or not useful. It's that in a party with nothing but bards for dps, there will be no one with a dps limit break. And in endgame stuff, you need it. Bard queues as dps in duty finder but has no dps limit break. This is bad. Because sometimes your party can get stuck without one.

[LunarEmerald]

Bard's limit break should be

Level 1: 25% damage increase for the entire party, 30s duration
Level 2: 50% damage increase for the entire party, 30s duration
Level 3: 75% damage increase for the entire party, 30s duration

Then their limit break would be support and offensive.

[Nibb]

Bard's limit break should be

Level 1: 25% damage increase for the entire party, 30s duration
Level 2: 50% damage increase for the entire party, 30s duration
Level 3: 75% damage increase for the entire party, 30s duration

Then their limit break would be support and offensive.

No, it really shouldn't be. No one would ever use the DPS LB then because 75% damage for 30s is way more damage than 1 big hit or an AoE nuke.

[LunarEmerald]

No, it really shouldn't be. No one would ever use the DPS LB then because 75% damage for 30s is way more damage than 1 big hit or an AoE nuke.

Not sure about that. AOE nuking would still be better against multiple targets. Bard's limit break would only be useful when several dps members were still standing. Dragoon and Monk's would always be useful.

[Brahma]

I'm Bard LV35 right now, and I like everything about my job except the limit break... I think it's useless if there's a good healer around. I would love to have a damage-oriented LB.

[Sorakeith]

I agree, bard's limit break is crappy as it is now.

Lunar's post is a good idea though.

[Zantetsuken]

The real question is "Why do we only have 3 roles?"

Shouldn't we have a "support" role with bard falling into that category?

[Reiterpallasch]

You will always have a tank, and therefore always have the tank limit break.
You will always have a healer, and therefore always have the healer limit break.
You won't always have anything other than BRDs in your group though, so you won't always have the DPS limit break.

Excuses like "but what if both healers are dead?!" are shitty arguments, because it means the group messed up badly and is going to wipe anyways, or is just plain bad to begin with. Don't try to justify BRD having the wrong limit break based on situations that shouldn't be happening to begin with.

[Nibb]

You will always have a tank, and therefore always have the tank limit break.
You will always have a healer, and therefore always have the healer limit break.
You won't always have anything other than BRDs in your group though, so you won't always have the DPS limit break.

Excuses like "but what if both healers are dead?!" are shitty arguments, because it means the group messed up badly and is going to wipe anyways, or is just plain bad to begin with. Don't try to justify BRD having the wrong limit break based on situations that shouldn't be happening to begin with.

So your suggestion is to make BRDs a must have. That isn't going to solve anything.

I think bards getting a TP/MP restoration would fit perfectly with the job. Not too overpowered, and certainly helpful on long fights.