dev1031 You are losing your main playerbase by making things too easy/fast/casual

[Visch]

Sorry to bump into the discussion but this statement is true ,not wrong like you said.At least compared to any mmo up to date on the "old" ffxi pre leve sync , if you were 75 it DID meant something. I nearly have two 50 on here and it doesnt mean a thing.

Yup. Getting to 75 in XI was an accomplishment itself. Everything thing felt like it meant something meaningful.

[Shiyo]

Yeah I remember seeing 75 JP's back in 2003 and respecting them, and going "WOW!". They were also good at the game and pretty smart. You had to actually know how to play to get 75 and know what you were doing. In this game any IDIOT can get 50, why did we even add low level NMS with gear drops if we can get 50 naked with 0 effort? Mobs are so weak that gear won't even make a difference, it's why cooking is such crap, no one needs more attk or acc or defense or mattk or macc. Mobs are complete pushovers and die in 2 hits while being zerged by 8 people :/

[Corrderio]

Then maybe the game isn't for you?

[Kallera]

Sorry to bump into the discussion but this statement is true ,not wrong like you said.At least compared to any mmo up to date on the "old" ffxi pre leve sync , if you were 75 it DID meant something. I nearly have two 50 on here and it doesnt mean a thing.

Other than the ability to join camping parties and a basic understanding of a melee, puller, or healer, no, it didn't. You certainly didn't use all aspects of a job while leveling.

[Zkieve]

Other than the ability to join camping parties and a basic understanding of a melee, puller, or healer, no, it didn't. You certainly didn't use all aspects of a job while leveling.

But you learned to be a party player.That in itself is an achievement.
We had skillchaines, Magic bursts,exp chaines,geting to camps(lol demon camp in ul... range), strategies, diferent type of parties .Also most parties tryed to achieve the max level of efficiency with whatever jobs they had available.

If you think every single party on the old ffxi was a bird party you didnt really played back then.

[Gracious]

Yeah I remember seeing 75 JP's back in 2003 and respecting them, and going "WOW!". They were also good at the game and pretty smart. You had to actually know how to play to get 75 and know what you were doing. In this game any IDIOT can get 50, why did we even add low level NMS with gear drops if we can get 50 naked with 0 effort? Mobs are so weak that gear won't even make a difference, it's why cooking is such crap, no one needs more attk or acc or defense or mattk or macc. Mobs are complete pushovers and die in 2 hits while being zerged by 8 people :/

In this game it's getting jobs to 50 not 75. If we we're able to take jobs to 75 it's still an accomplishment. Ranking jobs up takes time especially if we were taking them to 75. If any idiot can get a job to 50 then we must not have very many idiots playing since not that many players have all to 50 jobs.

[Zkieve]

In this game it's getting jobs to 50 not 75. If we we're able to take jobs to 75 it's still an accomplishment. Ranking jobs up takes time especially if we were taking them to 75. If any idiot can get a job to 50 then we must not have very many idiots playing since not that many players have all to 50 jobs.

People dont get to 50 because they dont care.Not because they cant in a short time.
Should take you around a month doing leve link party only.More or less.
Is not hard , is just pointless.

[Shiyo]

Other than the ability to join camping parties and a basic understanding of a melee, puller, or healer, no, it didn't. You certainly didn't use all aspects of a job while leveling.

Really? So we didn't skillchain, MB, manage threat, keep debuffs up, keep buffs up(haste/refresh/ballad/acc/attk), ACTUALLY HAVE A TANK, stun weapon skills, -na, sleep adds, escape,dispel,actually have to pull properly,keep track of repop timers in our heads, pull at perfect times to keep the chain, skillchain and MB durning certain chains to keep the chain, blow cds for more durning certain chains to keep the chain, keep utsu up, keep third eye up, meditate, set up properly for SATA with a 1st voke, SATA + WS + position flawlessly or else the offvoker would die in 5 seconds + MP sponge, ichi/ni tank as a NIN(Hardest thing ever pretty much) or anything?

I guess tab - > 11111111111111 2 - > tab - > 1111111111111111123 while completely ignoring everything going on, no real tanks, not even caring if you have a healer 95% of the time, not even care about buffs, debuffs not existing, is ANYWHERE near that.

[Visch]

In this game it's getting jobs to 50 not 75. If we we're able to take jobs to 75 it's still an accomplishment. Ranking jobs up takes time especially if we were taking them to 75. If any idiot can get a job to 50 then we must not have very many idiots playing since not that many players have all to 50 jobs.

But it is just time over all. It is the same at rank 20 as it is at rank 49 just slower. No battle regiments. No party set ups needed. Tanks or mages are optional. Just 11111.

[Gracious]

People dont get to 50 because they dont care.Not because they cant in a short time.
Should take you around a month doing leve link party only.More or less.
Is not hard , is just pointless.

I think that taking the time to do them is harder then you think, especially if doing more then one job. Pointless... I have to disagree because I think the whole point is to get them to 50 so when they introduce 75 you can rank them up. And I go back to my original statement. If any idiot can get jobs to 50 then why do so few have all to 50?