dev1031 You are losing your main playerbase by making things too easy/fast/casual

[rainfish]

I can't go back to FFXI, abyssea ruined that game ?

They didn't really ruin it, they just brought it into line with all MMO's. They wiped all the endgame content away that catered to hardcore players and made what they put in it's place accessable to everyone.

If you don't like casual games then I guess they ruined it, for you maybe.

Dude they don't understand that. What is messed up is they are complaining about content that might come in the future that they probably will never even see because they're so "casual" they won't even be playing by then.

This isn't true, take wow as an example. That game is mainly made up from casual gamers, you know how long that game has been around and with mass player numbers? Casual gamers stick around just as long as hardcore players, if not almost every MMO would be surviving on a <10k playersbases.

[Kallera]

I also have to wonder, would it even be wise to release endgame content while the game is still free?. Wouldn't it be more. Prudent to wait until you are getting paid subscriptions before adding in longer term content? There's still the battle system revamp to do. And who knows how deep the companies are?

[Kurokikaze]

ITT: A lot of butthurt, white-knighting and trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls.

[Ostia]

Why are people stuck in 1998 in 2011 ?

Really hardcore crowds are not the main crowd of any game, they are a large minority, casual gamers are the main crowd, the people that pay the bills, why should they take the back seat to the smaller community ?

[Shneibel]

Why are people stuck in 1998 in 2011 ?

Really hardcore crowds are not the main crowd of any game, they are a large minority, casual gamers are the main crowd, the people that pay the bills, why should they take the back seat to the smaller community ?

and from where do you get that info ? care to bring out the source ?

SE can make some NM with 12h+- spawm time and those with 4-5 min spawm, ofc the 4-5 min will get item with lower stat than the 12h+- , fair and no one will complain (there will)

Hard work get reward folk

[SilvertearRen]

and from where do you get that info ? care to bring out the source ?

The casuals are often too busy with their lives to bother checking the forums.

They don't often post, either.

[Cadaceus]

Hey, just because they make it more accessible to people WHO DON'T HAVE A TON OF TIME TO PUT INTO A GAME, doesn't make it less hardcore. All you others I.E. Most of you people who are complaining that the game isn't hardcore anymore are probably the people who have nothing better to do with their time and are also the ones that the note before you log in is directed at* (whew that was a mouthful) should calm down, same content and you still get there faster than the rest because you put in all the time you would have anyway. As for having a toggle-able rank/enemy icon feature doesn't ruin anything anyway. Turn it off if it bothers you. I've been taking on dodos in Thanalan desert that were higher rank than me all week. Just because i now know they're r19 to my r12 doesn't mean i'm not going to fight them anymore. >.>

[Kallera]

If this was the 80s, and ffxiv was on the nes, I assure you, no one would be complaining...

[Belial]

If this was the 80s, and ffxiv was on the nes, I assure you, no one would be complaining...

Lies. How many times have you cursed having to blow into the cartridge?

[CrystalWeapon]

Lies. How many times have you cursed having to blow into the cartridge?

I always cheated and just used rubbing alcohol. ^_~